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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[That jordan image should have him sporting the #45 seeing how he did wear it for a while after returning to the NBA after his first retirement.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[helloUser]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 3:49AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[You are sooo right. Updated.<br><br>Thomas]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Ricker]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 3:56AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[Lol, guess there's an advantage to posting this early/late, you actually get your post read. <br><br>Dear Engadget,<br><br>Please review the macbooks (and pros!) with benchmarks asap. Not just one model, all 4? Please?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[William Briere]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 3:57AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[Yes, but didn't he do bad when using 45, that's why he went back to 23? ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[noyp]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 8:51AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[*sigh* Macs arent "different" anymore. The only differences are the OS and the really really inflated prices.<br><br>*is sad*]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Adderz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 3:56AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[I don't get the Apple elistism.   I'm a Mac user, but I don't understand why Macs have to be "different"  in order to be special to a Mac user are well beyond my reasoning.  I can't agree.   It's purely ego.<br><br>I use OS X because of the OS.  Period.  If there was no OS X, and no progress and refinement in OS X, I wouldn't buy it.  The OS is what does it for me.  Excellent implementations of multiple desktops (Spaces), Exposé, and even Dashboard is what makes it more practical to me.  <br><br> It's not the aluminium or any mechanical parts inside.  Get over yourself.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 4:20AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[speaking of the new nvidia 9400m...i really am interested in purchasing a new macbook but was wondering if these will be any good at playing games.  i would usually use a playstation to play most games but would like to have the option to play on a macbook.  anyone know if it'll give decent results???]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[EI8HT]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 4:03AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[It definitely won't be too bad.  You won't play the most extravagant games at full detail, but you will be able to run any game as well as most mid-to-high range laptops from 12 months ago, and better than current mid-to-low range laptops (they've all been using Intel's 950, X3100 or 4500 graphics).<br><br>Overall, you'll probably find it to be a really good laptop.   The plastic MacBooks were always rattly, and didn't feel physically durable, although they probably are.  The iBooks certainly were.  The MBA has always been the opposite, feeling sturdier than the old MBP and MB, although having 1 USB slot was always rather stupid. If they had put in 2 USB slots and an ethernet port, half the complaints would have been gone.  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 4:26AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[It won't be spectacular. If you manage to play games, you'll be playing them on the lowest settings, but you'll actually be able to play them, unlike intel integrated gfx.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[thethirdmoose]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 9:45AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[where is the new macbook ram slot??]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[alex_dlc]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 4:10AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[Man. As soon as Intel takes a serious, hardcore stab at Nvidia (which looks to be coming soon), Nvidia is in some major trouble that no amount of shit talk will get them out of.<br><br>They got AMD. One down, one to go.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Serial 8-Ball Mouse]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 4:22AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[Actually the new MBA will most likely get a performance boost due to the bump from the previous 800mhz FSB with DDR2-667 mem to the new 1066mhz FSB with DDR3-1066 mem. Extra L2 cache only helps with data-intensive apps where the CPU finishes chewing through the L2 cache before the RAM has a chance to refill it -- which the MBA frankly isn't intended for. Realistically, a larger L2 cache gets better returns on quad-cores (or new 6-cores) with multithreaded apps.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[fh]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 4:27AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[Actually DDR3 @ 1066 won't be much faster than DDR2 @ 667, if not slightly slower. The prefetch buffer is doubled from 4-bit to 8-bit, but also doubles the latency at which is required to retrieve. You get a bit more throughput, but your suffer from slower latency (6ns cycle time on the 667 vs 7.5ns on the DDR3). They would have been better off with DDR2 @ 1066 which gets a 3.75ns cycle time (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR2_SDRAM" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR2_SDRAM</a>). When moved to 2x the clock on DDR2, the speeds will typically be the same. With DDR3 you will be able to attain overall higher clock rates. <br><br>However, they do it in the name of more battery life. There are other benefits to DDR3 (on DIMM termination, lower voltage @ ~similar speeds, etc), but speed isn't one of them unless you're going a LOT higher than 1066mhz..<br><br>Just because it says DDR3 vs DDR2, don't assume it's faster. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Precurse]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 10:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[I bet the MBA won't see major improvements in performance until Snow Leopard is released.  Right now, it may have gained a miniscule 5% gain in performance.   For tech that's 1 year older, that 5% is lame.  However, the 9400M will definitely make a difference<br><br>I just don't understand why the battery life has decreased.  Does the 9400M use that much more power than the Intel GMA 950 that the power savings from the CPU are more than offset by this 9400M?   Should we expect even more heat from the MBA?  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 4:31AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[I don't think Larrabee will be seen in laptops for at least another 2 years.  The desktop part is supposed to drop in 2010 and is rumored to have a ridiculous TDP.<br><br>I'm glad Apple went with Nvidia this time.  I considered a Macbook for my last laptop purchase, but I couldn't justify $1500 (once you added Applecare, DVI/VGA adapters, memory upgrades from Newegg, etc.) for a laptop that still came with pos GMA950 graphics.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[funnyperson1]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 5:33AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[45-nm.... Big difference...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jash Sayani]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 6:06AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[I hope this new chip, that consumes 17W instead of the current 20W will finally fix the heating problem that many Macbook Air users are struggling with, like mine. We first had several months of core shutdown and in August apple finally tried to fix it with a patc, but that just slowed the system down more quickly to avoid the core shutdown. But this makes the Macbook Air useless for video playback/iChat Video. <br><br>I can simulate the issue in the following way:<br><br>a) room temperature is warm (to be specific more then 76 Fahrenheit/26 Celsius)<br>b) I use iChat Video and after xx minutes. <br>c) Kernel_task (NOT PANIC) jumps in (this is process that Apple added in the specific Macbook Air System update) After a few minutes it takes over 100 to 150% of the cpu and then cutting my iChat Video. I can't do anything. Before this update my system was having core shutdowns. <br>d) I went already 3x times to Apple Store Genius and they told me several times (also with his super visor) that Apple knows about this issue and that Apple is working on a fix.<br>This was about 2 weeks ago.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[mvo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 7:25AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[Yes, I have the exact same behavior-- all is nice with the MacBook Air until that starts happening :) . You're right, it tends to happen when the room temperature is a bit high, or also if it's on a soft surface.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[dm]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 8:48AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[You guys are crazy thinking that a 9400 is going to handle gaming.  The older MBP with an 8600m GT with dd3 was mid range last year, and the 8600 is more powerful than the 9400.  The 9600m GT that will be offered in the new MBP is now a mid range card but it won't perform miracles.  Unless gaming to you means 640x480, the 9400 is more for pre 2008 games, and will handle most of your video needs. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Big Al]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 8:39AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[Its for simple games like WoW or Call of Duty 4 on 1024x600 resolution.<br><br>I am interested in the MBP benchmark though.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 9:06AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Intel: MacBook Air sheds custom CPU for 45-nm Penryn "S"]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/intel-macbook-air-sheds-custom-cpu-for-45-nm-penryn-s/</guid><description><![CDATA[I completely agree the 9400 is crap (It's a $50 video card...), but it's far better crap than what was in it before.  WoW should be playable...Call of Duty will be a bit painful, however.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kamokazi]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 15th 2008 9:35AM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
