iriver SPINN review

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Hardware
Get ready for some superlatives: the iriver SPINN is the sexiest piece of kit we've played with this year. It's simply beautiful, and truly "designed." iriver didn't just cut a slab of brushed aluminum and call it good, they've crafted a piece of art here with quality details, a truly elegant spinning cylinder, and a gorgeous OLED screen front and center. It's not the slimmest player around, but it's not trying to be, and still effortlessly fits into a jean pocket.

The inclusion of back, power, volume and hold buttons means you can do pretty much everything on the player without touching the screen, though the placement of the controls demands that you hold the device in a landscape orientation, and that you use both hands. Even if you're using the touchscreen, the lack of a portrait mode for the player means you're most likely going to need both hands for even the simplest tasks. The whole thing is a major step backwards from the Clix from a usability standpoint, as fun as spinning can be.
As for the screen, it's a pretty mixed bag. On one hand, the colors and brightness of the OLED screen are practically breathtaking. We've never seen such richness on any mobile device before. The screen is resistive touch, which is disappointing, but it's pretty responsive as far as resistive touchscreens go. However, the screen appears to possess a mere 16-bit color depth, instead of the 24-bit standard on most LCDs, which means that as great as those reds, greens and blues look, there are only around 65k of them, instead of the 16 million or so we're used to. Dithering and color stepping is really noticeable when viewing pictures or video, and we're not sure if we're comfortable with that tradeoff for the otherwise amazing view the SPINN provides.
Storage-wise the SPINN comes in 8GB ($280) and 4GB ($240) flavors, with zero media expansion to speak of. Luckily, if you dig around you can get both versions for a good bit cheaper.

Software
First off, for the hardcore: the SPINN is first and foremost a mass storage device, perfect for plugging into just about any OS and loading media into plainly marked folders for video, audio, pictures and more. Vista preferred we install the drivers from the included CD first, but OS X spotted and loaded the SPINN right away. When you plug in the USB, the SPINN asks you if you'd like "Power & Play" or "Power & Data," to obvious effect. Rhapsody also has little trouble recognizing the device and PlaysForSure should be a snap, though our pre-release device wasn't set up for working with subscription music.
Like we said at the outset, the lack of an ecosystem really hurts iriver on the desktop side. "Works with anybody" doesn't exactly equal "works the best." With stores like Amazon's DRM-free MP3 wonderland, things are certainly looking up, but the best two jukeboxes (iTunes and Zune, in our humble opinion) are intrinsically tied to their players, and few developers seem ready to fill in the gap for the rest of us, especially on Windows and Mac. Video is even a worse scenario, with few legal methods to obtain DRM-free content, and cumbersome ripping and transcoding required to score your own.
That said, iriver's certainly doing its best at making this work from the player standpoint, offering up playback of MP3, WMA, OGG, ASF, FLAC and APE for music, MPEG4, WMV9 and XVID for video. Unfortunately, while the SPINN will easily play just about anything you'd care to torrent (legally, of course) it can't handle downsizing the full-res video without getting choppy and eventually getting the audio out of sync. That means your current computer-friendly video collection will need some re-encoding to play on the SPINN, even if you're all set for codecs.

We'll run you through those menu options real fast: "Flash" gets you at the Flash games, which make full use of the touchscreen and certainly show potential; "Rec" offers up a simple recording interface for use with the built-in mic; "Picture" is an extremely simple gallery view, but it's fun to step through the pictures with the wheel; "Video" offers up a nice list view of videos, with an actual live video preview of the selected vid; "Music" we'll detail in the next paragraph; "Radio" offers up simple ways to set presets and jump through stations (another win for the wheel); "Text" lets you read through text documents, which look great on the screen, but doesn't allow for much styling; "File" is a simple folder-structure file browser; "Set" offers up just a few options, like changing the theme, screen brightness and pairing with an A2DP headset over Bluetooth, but not much here.

Perhaps you're picking up a theme here, but the only place where the device really rewards touchscreen usage is in Flash games. It's not that the touchscreen is horrible, just that the interface hasn't been optimized for it, while still failing in enough ways to make using the scroll wheel and the back button exclusively a bit of a chore.
Wrap-up
It's plain to see that iriver has obviously put a lot of thought into the design of this player, we just wish they'd put half as much thought into everyday usability. There's so much to love about the SPINN, and a bit of an x-factor that makes us want to love it more, but when we really sit down and try to build our portable media life around this little flash-based bugger, there are too many drawbacks in actual usage to make it worth it. Your mileage may vary.


















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
John Doe @ Oct 16th 2008 6:57PM
ok...still clix2 is the best
yode @ Oct 16th 2008 10:06PM
Michael: "That's blown "away" right?"
who? @ Oct 16th 2008 7:11PM
If you're going to market 4GB that costs more than the iPod Touch 8GB, which has more features, better screen resolution, internet browsing, and an app/music store built-in, then you've chosen the wrong career.
cj @ Oct 16th 2008 7:17PM
How did I know that iEye was gonna comment on how better iTouch is?
*sigh... I'm so tired of this guy... I bet he's part of Engadget Apple fanboys.
bolezhinkov @ Oct 16th 2008 7:23PM
dear cj,
yeah it sucks having to hear how great apple is, but this time he is right. think first, then write.
thethirdmoose @ Oct 16th 2008 8:09PM
OLED, Bluetooth, Cylinder, Format support, Recording.
I think this is a great player. It's a pity that it has so little storage. If this had a hard drive and I was in the market for an MP3 player, it would probably be between this and an Archos 5 or 605.
zoopthegame @ Oct 16th 2008 9:00PM
2GB Ram macbook 2.0 Ghz Core 2 Duo. Integrated graphics. price: Over $1,000.
I guess Steve Jobs chose the wrong career.
Shame on you, Steve Jobs, for not following "who?"s authoritative and groundbreaking marketing analysis.
who? @ Oct 16th 2008 9:15PM
@zoopthegame
Exactly! I mean, compared with all of those other laptops with multitouch trackpads, backlit keyboards, environmentally friendly aluminum casings/glass screens, four contact headset compatibility, 5hrs of battery life, and a totally wicked graphics card, the new MacBook can't compete! Err, that is, if there was some competition out there... I guess the only reason I won't get one is because they dropped the firewire port (@$$holes), don't have high enough resolution, and need Blu-ray drives.
Smileypanda @ Oct 16th 2008 9:19PM
With a hard drive and a little more time to get the interface working better, this thing would have been killer....
Jimmy Jones @ Oct 16th 2008 10:44PM
Your analysis makes complete sense....well with all the media and fuss going around this SPIN device before it even launched n etc, I can imagine the price dropping over time due to lack of sales caused by exorbitant price on such a device.
@zoopthegame -- I agree with your analogy of the 2GB RAM, 2.0 Cores, Integrated...... comments above. According to the fanbois, just cuz it is Apple, it is ok for them to charge that much for the presumable aesthetically looking Macbooks "just cuz it's Steve" ...it is also ok because:
(1). Because anything Apple is gost-darned looking astonishing and thius
(2). It is ok to pay more for it because of fanbois loyalty,
(3). In the mind of the fanbois, Apple et al never goes wrong and never do no evil
(4). It is also ok for Apple et al to charge its users (customers) for service packs, upgrades, patches to the OS, iPhone firmware -- and these are things that should have been included in the first place when they launched the products..
(5). Steve Job is got 'em by the balls...
Wwhat @ Oct 17th 2008 11:32AM
"Who?" is right, and I don't get this player, no 24bit color, no memory expansion (that must cost less than $1 to add these days), it all makes no sense unless they try to sell as few as possible of these things.
chex @ Nov 7th 2008 4:58PM
iriver offers sound quality; apple does not - the itouch is for people that want a toy, the spinn for audiophiles
Nathan @ Oct 16th 2008 7:17PM
If it doesn't have atleast 120gb then it's completely useless, no matter how good the design is. Someday the manufacturers will figure this out.
zoopthegame @ Oct 16th 2008 9:06PM
what about 100GB? is it completely useless?
jorvay @ Oct 17th 2008 9:33AM
Oh, I get it. All the giant corporations that invest millions of dollars annually in market research were wrong. It turns out there is more money to be made from a handfull of obsessive audiophiles than from the masses of people that simply want to enjoy their music in an efficient, compact, and durable (aka no hard drives allowed) format.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate good sound quality. There are certain players I won't touch with a ten-foot poll because they just can't reproduce the music well enough and I've invested in a nice sound system and some solid headphones for portable use. But there comes a point where it's not worth it. It's that point where you're listening so carefully to make sure everything is perfect that you've stopped actually listening to the music. It's that point where the return on investment for better sound quality is insanely low, both in terms of financials and secondary functionality.
Maybe it's worth it for you and that's fine. But face it, you're in the minority and for large music player manufacturers, there aren't enough people like you to be worth the investment in a unique product.
uwaga dude @ Oct 17th 2008 3:26PM
that's a LOT of porn
ai4281 @ Oct 16th 2008 7:18PM
U10 is still the best!
Quix @ Oct 16th 2008 7:30PM
Beautiful looking player.
Stu L Tissimus @ Oct 16th 2008 7:21PM
It's sexy as hell but the storage space is so damn small! I'm still waiting on iRiver to deliver a new hard player to replace my aging yet still awesome iHP-120 (aka H120). Rockbox makes these things stay alive for only so long.
al @ Oct 16th 2008 7:47PM
I miss my iriver h320. someday i will revive it with a new HD and battery since iriver forgot what a hard drive is.
Minilap @ Oct 16th 2008 8:05PM
Reviewing an MP3 player without going in depth about output quality = fail
ethana2 @ Oct 16th 2008 8:09PM
"but the barebones player software, lack of an "ecosystem," and ..."
So, it's not supported by rockbox yet then, right?
cesium @ Oct 16th 2008 8:14PM
Ehh things don't just magically get supported by rockbox..
computer.dude.28 @ Oct 16th 2008 8:30PM
"the lack of an ecosystem really hurts iriver on the desktop side"
Which part of the desktop side didn't you get? Rockbox is completely irrelevent to the quotes you posted.
ethana2 @ Oct 16th 2008 8:45PM
That'll fix itself if they don't go all Apple on it and change file systems and encrypt things and crap just to screw with apps like Amarok.
DirtyVegas @ Oct 16th 2008 8:09PM
Looks pretty neat. How fast can you scroll a list of say, 100 artists?
Alex @ Oct 16th 2008 9:13PM
"Ecosystems" suck anyway. I agree it hurts their chances in the mainstream, but I hate being tied to a piece of software for syncing.
terry @ Oct 17th 2008 11:52PM
Um, iriver has sweat shop engineers and sweat shop assembly workers so they can crank out shit like this all day long!
Kris @ Oct 17th 2008 1:55AM
One thing I must say is, this is one elegant looking PMP
Mr. B @ Oct 17th 2008 1:56AM
...another gorgeous piece of hardware from iRiver that should have been built with a hard drive.
stf @ Oct 17th 2008 2:50AM
"Even if you're using the touchscreen, the lack of a portrait mode for the player means you're most likely going to need both hands for even the simplest tasks."
There is a "portrait" mode. See the review on anythingbutipod.com
alf @ Oct 17th 2008 3:54AM
I think its perfectly ok to create a player like that with 4gb under the price of an 8gb apple touch. Sometimes you just gotta bring something to market that will make people think about the variations of our choices and doings. crack that locked up market open just a little bit.
For once a good company really stands up to defy the mainstream with a kickass player. And if you guys out there can do nothing but complain (while rocking your ipods in your arms humming lullabies), you better look around and see whats actually going on. Cause last i checked, every living thing looked like the ipod or the iphone.
Price? Seriously. Are gadget people really gonna bitsjh about price, when most of us would pay great prices for "dumb" things any day. Heck, the lot of us obey cars and snazzy expensive stuff like that too. And...... Im probably one of the pooorest gadget freaks in my country and i bet ya not. I have no complaints with the price. But why?
Because the spinn truely is original, beautiful, quirky and unique in soo many ways (and i love terry gilliam). This one would steal the envyous apple admirers attention any day. And the sound quality difference would blow them away.
PS: the only complaint i have on the spinn is the proprietary usb port. Whats that about.
thiel @ Oct 17th 2008 8:57PM
No portrait mode?????????????
The one on AnythingButiPod could do that. You sure?
thiel @ Oct 17th 2008 8:59PM
Doh, missed stf's post!
Honey @ Oct 24th 2008 2:33AM
Why compare apple with iriver? they are designed for different TA. I personally love iriver for their awesome sound... What's a PMP without great sounding abilities? At the end of the day you're gonna listen to it, no?
But apart from that i love how iriver is different from every other PMP. Cos everyone is following apple, where's the originality dude.
Oh yea where's the review on SPINN's sound quality? lol... people don't care about that anymore or what. I'm loving my clix but SPINN is definitely gonna be in my iriver collection soon cos I really hope iriver's gonna improvise on it? Cos I want a 16 gb one at least =( FAT HOPE i guess.
DanyV @ Dec 10th 2008 3:59PM
Well finally a really good player, but still there's also another player that i'm interested in - the Creative ZEN X-Fi. and thats the point...thats why i'm asking especially you audiophiles for your opinion. Please tell me what would you prefer the most? As each of them has something which the other doues't have. The Creative ZEN X-Fi: + judging by the pictures i've seen better and more colourful display, but smaller, implemented Xtreme Fidelity, built in SD card slot (for memory expansion). - no radio recording, no custom UI even no legal possibility of adding one(if u don't want to hack the software, which i definetely don't want to do) and also thicker than the SPINN.
The iRiver SPINN: + actually everything what the X-Fi doesn't have and also the touchscreen is something I find very cool not to forget the SRS WOW. - everything what te x-fi does have :D and also the price for the 8 GB version is noticeably higher than the x-fi.
If you could help me please as i'm at complete loss for which i should decide as i'm looking for the best player as a replacement for my ZEN Vision:M
Thanks
Daniel