http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/ Engadget Comments for Mobile browser showdown: Archos 5 vs. iPhone 3G vs. Nokia N810 http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/18 seconds faster?
hmmmm]]>Oct 18th 2008 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
Yet all we hear is that Safari Mobile is the best browser experience - what crap.]]>Oct 18th 2008 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
No, what it really shows is that CPU speed has more to do with browser performance than any single other factor. ;)]]>Oct 18th 2008 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
except that the entry states "Now, that's not to say that makes the 5's Opera-powered browser the best or even the most useable, since in our experience scrolling is painfully choppy and hard to do with the resistive touchscreen,"


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One can compare apples to apples by looking at videos of the new HTC Touch HD vs the iPhone 3G, which demonstrates the same.

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1105

Look at the above video for example, where Safari completely mis-renders the page, while Opera Mobile renders it perfectly.]]>Oct 18th 2008 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
2) The superior load time of the Archos 5 is obvious - It uses a 600mhz Cortex-A8 processor which is more than twice as fast clock-for-clock than the ARM11 that the iPhone (and every other smartphone) uses...]]>Oct 18th 2008 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
ugh. HTC is killing me :(]]>Oct 19th 2008 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 6:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/and it's also funny how you say it's all bloatware cause you'd think without it, it would actually be faster not slower]]>Oct 18th 2008 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/and it's also funny how you say it's all bloatware cause you'd think without it, it would actually be faster not slower]]>Oct 18th 2008 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
APPLES SAFARI RULES]]>Oct 18th 2008 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 19th 2008 12:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
Am i the only one who sees the hypocrisy there? You can't judge it without using it, yet you can judge every alternative without using them...]]>Oct 19th 2008 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
Please M$, Sony, Archos etc make your products thinner lets get some real competition.]]>Oct 18th 2008 10:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
Er... D'you think mabye because it's also the cheapest (screened) iPod in existance?

As far as I can see, the first iPod Nano also had the highest device-destroying damage rate of any iPod in existance.]]>Oct 19th 2008 5:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/And don't flame me, I use my iTouch alot for browsing.]]>Oct 18th 2008 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
If it doesn't do it for you, and/or it doesn't support the functionality you need, that's fine by me. But please don't knock the iPhone, just because it's an iPhone. Recognise it for the breakthrough that it is. We'd never have seen the likes of the G1, the Touch diamond or the Bold without it.

@ the world in general: See, I think the no-Flash issue is a bit of a red-herring. The way I look at it - and let me preface this by saying I'm a digital creative, Flash is my life - if I'm out and about, I'm generally using my phone to draw information, not for entertainment; and now that I've got , the last place I need to go is online for the latter. Even if the iPhone had Flash capabilities, I wouldn't access the majority of Flash content anyway as it tends to be bandwidth intensive, and'll therefore take forever to pull it down, plus will suck battery. If I'm at home, or otherwise within reach of an open wifi node, I've generally got my MacBook Pro on me, so I'd prefer to revert to that in any case, at which point Flash accessibility isn't an issue.

I don't miss Flash on my iPhone *at all*.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't - and routinely don't - recommend the iPhone to everyone. it's just not suited to a good portion of users. There's far too many people who've bought the hype - and I include people on both side's of the fence in that ;)]]>Oct 18th 2008 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
Or don't you realize most of us are not flash developers sick of flash sitting next to our macbook at home.]]>Oct 18th 2008 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
Please tell me why Safari is better? It's slower and doesn't support Flash/AJAX. I'll tell you what - I think most people can live without slow load times and multi-touch.]]>Oct 20th 2008 1:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
18 seconds LONGER to load Engadget is embarrassing.


I don't think I'll even bother with 3G connectivity until acceptable speeds are standard. WiFi and WiMax will be fine for now.]]>Oct 18th 2008 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
About the browser topic: I think and I'm happy to see some competition to Mobile Safari ... its about time too. More competition = good. Safari's been out for 1.5 years and I'm a little surprised Apple hasn't bumped it up to the next level. Personally, I dislike NOT having flash content. Apple, youtube isn't the only flash site you know. My WM6 phone had that a year ago; of course Opera (back then, not now) couldn't really use it too well (rendering issues with older versions in 2006). Like I said, I don't care about Apple or MS ... may the best product win - lets see WM7. FYI, I was inclined to buy the Touch HD but the inconsistent "curtains on top of Windows Mobile UI" killed it ... several apps revert to the 'regular' WM6 interface. At the same time, I can see the buggy Exchange integration on the iPhone a deal breaker for other users.]]>Oct 18th 2008 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
I haven't Jailbroken my iPhone, just to let you know, I'm sure everybody that hasn't jailbroken it will agree that it's still crashes every time you want to fill out a UPS pickup form to send back my USB power adapter (no joke intended)

But thanks for the heads up about Jailbreaking making the apps go slower :)]]>Oct 18th 2008 9:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 7:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
It's a MIT it is design to browse the internet as much as to use the PMP's function and it's a shame engadget can't realize this..

The result's seem understandable to me : The archos 5 is optimised to use wifi and has a better CPU.

(not to mention the 4,8 inch screen just KICK the lama's ass.)]]>Oct 18th 2008 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 18th 2008 4:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/Oct 19th 2008 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/18/mobile-browser-showdown-archos-5-vs-iphone-3g-vs-nokia-n810/
It's a good idea to make devices slower in benchmarks "since it's the default setting"]]>Oct 18th 2008 10:53AM