http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/ Engadget Comments for Apple Q408 results out: 6.9m iPhones sold, record Mac sales UPDATE: Steve answers analysts' questions http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
He's ignoring the awful and/or overpriced peripherals right? There's a reason why my lab uses Dell 30" screens with their Mac Pros and not Cinema Displays (even though they use the same exact panel) and why I always sell off the awful input peripherals they include with our Mac Pros to Apple fans who don't know any better.

What is Logitech doing right that Apple isn't? Can Steve hear me through that turtleneck of his?]]>Oct 21st 2008 6:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
I couldn't resist, I have no real gripe with the iPhone though (it's innovative device indeed!). Rock on!]]>Oct 21st 2008 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 9:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 9:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
The G1 isn't hideous, and slide-out keyboards remain a big selling point for most business people. The iPhone is an amazing device, I won't deny that, but the G1 remains a good competitor.

Regards,
iPhone owner]]>Oct 22nd 2008 4:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 22nd 2008 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
I heard Ballmer say that the next Winmo (or maybe the one after that) will put iPhone out of its misery. Plus I'm supposed to mention the Mac Tax to receive my astroturfing payment so, Mac Tax, FTW!]]>Oct 21st 2008 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
/irony

I love my iPhone.]]>Oct 22nd 2008 1:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/AAPL 91.49 -6.95 (-7.06%) 81.05B

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So what's your point?]]>Oct 21st 2008 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
What's also interesting is Steve's statement that they sold more phones than RIM. Well, yeah, Steve you did, but then you also sell the iPhone in more markets than RIM (I think) and you didn't tell us what the sales rate is. Somehow I doubt you're going to do that next quarter.

But a good quarter nonetheless.]]>Oct 21st 2008 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
I don't see what investors would have to complain about. Deferred sales because of anticipation of the new Macbooks explains the shortfall pretty well. And to be debt free with 25 billion in cash on hand going into a recession? Yeah, Apple looks pretty good just now.]]>Oct 21st 2008 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
You don't think the iPhone will outsell the Blackberry during the *holiday* quarter of all quarters? Really???]]>Oct 21st 2008 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
Then you thought wrong.

The BlackBerry is available in far more markets and on far more carriers worldwide than the iPhone.

It has the advantage of both CDMA and GSM variants, enabling availability on every carrier in the US, its biggest market. The iPhone is GSM and AT&T only in America.

Not to mention the price advantages and number of models. A BlackBerry Pearl can be had for free while the iPhone is still relatively expensive at $199-$299.

For the single iPhone to outsell the entire BlackBerry lineup with its many advantages is nothing short of amazing. I and most others didn't expect it to happen so soon.]]>Oct 21st 2008 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
Hey, I could be wrong but RIM are releasing new models and Apple aren't. The mobile phone industry is brutal and has a rapid sales curve.]]>Oct 21st 2008 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 6:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
RIM sell in more countries but I'm not sure about profitable markets. Appreciate the point though.]]>Oct 21st 2008 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/MY thoughts exactly... RIM at least is forthcoming in that they say they "ship" 6.1M units in the last quarter (and 5.4M in the quarter before that) - they also indicate net new subscribers, which indicates the breakdown between new unit sales and either upgrades or material still sitting on a retailer's shelves. I'd like to see how much of this 6.9M is "sold" because it is now sitting in AT&T warehouse - how much of that was upgrades to people who bought the gen1 device? I mean, yes, good for Apple to have a great quarter, but to call out RIM specifically as someone they "out sold" is clearly a gauntlet being thrown down. With RIM introducing 3 new phones this Q it will be interesting indeed to see what *their* holiday sales are going to be like.]]>Oct 21st 2008 11:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
"I think Apple has expanded it's market share but I'm not seeing it getting too much higher - maybe 15%"

So the company is going to grow by 50% in the next year. Show me a PC company that is going to do the same? By your math you are a complete IDIOT.]]>Oct 21st 2008 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
"I'd like to see how much of this 6.9M is "sold" because it is now sitting in AT&T warehouse "

You obviously don't understand what is required during a financial conference call, these figures have to be back up financially otherwise Apple would be open to suing by shareholders or at the very least nuked by the SEC for lying.
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Pay attention. Apple's ceiling is about 15% as in 'that's as high as it goes'. Who said anything about next year?

As for growth, Acer grew 47% last quarter.

Fuckwit.]]>Oct 22nd 2008 3:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
He means Apple customers are dumb enough to fall for lame complements, and product-aware enough to buy any Apple product no matter what the cost or problems (Air/MacMook).]]>Oct 21st 2008 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
Cash is safe in the bank now ? When did that happen ?]]>Oct 21st 2008 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
(I think they all took there money out of the banks)]]>Oct 21st 2008 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
If you care most about the flashy user experience, good, then Apple is a good choice for you. But not for the smart and aware people who don't care as much.]]>Oct 21st 2008 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
Perhaps it's just that you aren't the customer Steve is talking about. Not everyone who uses a computer has to have the latest bleeding edge technology or the greatest expandability or every available option under the sun. Sometimes freedom from choice *is* what you want...

I suspect Steve knows the market he's selling to better than you do. Consider for a moment that perhaps you're not part of it. Not because you didn't choose Apple, but because Apple didn't choose you. Just as they don't choose the folks looking for he cheapest possible computer. They choose not to target them and don't make products for that space.]]>Oct 21st 2008 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
Does "smart and aware" mean seeing the perfectly rational logic in spending a few hundred extra bucks on a product that will give you a far better user experience over several years (and many thousands of hours) of use? Does "smart and aware" mean not buying a computer that has to be scanned for spyware and viruses several times a day? Does "smart and aware" mean buying a computer that can run every major computer OS on the planet on a single box, giving you access to the best applications on all platforms? Does "smart and aware" mean buying a small-footprint computer that doesn't sound like a vacuum cleaner, doesn't light up my office with neon lights, and doesn't cover my desktop with cables?

Yeah, it does. I'm smart and aware. And I don't buy (or build) PCs anymore. Been there, done that. Now I spend the extra money on Macs. And it's worth every penny.

Not for you? Great. Move on.]]>Oct 21st 2008 6:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/Oct 21st 2008 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/apple-q408-results-out-6-9m-iphones-sold-record-mac-sales/
"Not everyone who uses a computer has to have the latest bleeding edge technology or the greatest expandability or every available option under the sun."

Yeah...those people are called "Apple customers." ;)

(For the record, I own a 1G touch =)]]>Oct 21st 2008 11:36PM