http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/ Engadget Comments for German scientists think LEDs are the new Botox http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 5:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 5:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 11:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 5:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 5:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/
that had the bullshit alarm ringing before I even looked at the pictures.]]>Oct 22nd 2008 6:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 6:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/
SIGN ME UP!]]>Oct 22nd 2008 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 5:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 5:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/
With the acception of our monitor damaged sight and ipod wrecked hearing.]]>Oct 22nd 2008 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/
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no fountain of youth yet...]]>Oct 22nd 2008 5:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/
Seriously, I am using my back lited LED MSI Wind, I feel I can't use the screen as long as my old EEE 900 (with yellowish LCD) before I get eyestrain.]]>Oct 22nd 2008 5:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 5:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 6:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 6:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 6:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 6:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 6:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 6:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 6:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/]]>Oct 22nd 2008 6:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 6:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/
look younger feel younger an become younger!]]>Oct 22nd 2008 6:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 7:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/
http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/cgdefu/asap/html/cg8000703.html

I've read the source and it makes SOME sense. Not completely, I still would like to see some more and better evidence.

The other image included in the study has more similar light conditions than what our beloved editors have put over their article:

http://pubs.acs.org/isubscribe/journals/cgdefu/asap/figures/cg-2008-000703_0003.gif

For Christs' sake people. Before you start complaining at least read up on whatever you're criticizing. I'm not a chemist and don't know much about physics but we all know that water can take on crystalline structures (that's what you put in your Vodka in the morning) I'm skeptical alright but at least I read it ... ]]>Oct 22nd 2008 7:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/
But I'm sure I'm taking the wrong tack with you. Here, let's try this. I have some amazing magnetic skin restoration pads that will help synchronize the DNA in your epidermis with the rhythms of the universe. If you don't look 10 years younger in a month I'll give you back the $100 you need to send me by Tuesday . . . .]]>Oct 22nd 2008 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/
Im not a specialist in this area, but I can offer some words of warning (didnt take the time to read the ENTIRE thing though)

1. Theres no control, and the sample size is tiny (1?) - no conclusion can be made from this.

2. Water does form ordered structures around things dissolved in it, particularly hydrophobic compounds (the increase in entropy required to order the water is a reason why hydrophobic things dont dissolve in water) Im not familiar enough with this area (im a cell biologist) to say whether this counts as crystals.

3. Paper looks a bit dodgy. Published in a sub-par journal and not presented well (good data is usually easy to present).

Although, these people are physicists, so gotta give em some effort for trying to relate what they're doing to real life...]]>Oct 24th 2008 8:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 7:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/
#1: Um, yeah, the lighting is totally different in those shots

#2: Even with the different lighting, the wrinkles don't look much improved

#3: And to think, they called me a geek for wasting my life away in front of my monitor! I'll have the last laugh at the 20-year high school reunion!!

#4: So, H2O becomes, what, O2H?? The Pentagon may be interested in this...

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I share all other three views but that one is just utterly freaking stupid. Steel doesn't change it's molecule composition when it's hardened, yet, it changes structure. Crystallized water (read: Ice) is nothing but H2O either but with completely different features. You should have your nerd license revoked.]]>Oct 22nd 2008 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/
So you're saying that ice forms under the skin when LED light shines on it? And this improves wrinkles?

Or is this ICE 9 from "Cat's Cradle"?
]]>Oct 22nd 2008 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Note how the light source on the Nov 2007 image is is a hard spot light that makes hard shadows
and therefor bigger wrinkles. The light source for the Sept 2008 image is extremely soft.
Show me the before and after images in the very same light then I might think they are not BSing me.
]]>Oct 22nd 2008 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Then to top it off "meist3r" goes on about crystalline structure of water. That's called ICE and it's just an ordered arrangement of water molecules in a solution because of decreased heat energy. Real changes in molecular structure require a-lot of energy and believe me, your skin would be F*CKED.]]>Oct 22nd 2008 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/
Since when is assuming and hoping you're right scientific?]]>Oct 22nd 2008 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.hightechhealth.com/]]>Oct 22nd 2008 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/Oct 22nd 2008 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/22/german-scientists-think-leds-are-the-new-botox/to look younger, when you want to chat up girls in the bar, just set your portable LED-backlit 20" TFT to maximum and hold it close, and the diffuse light hides all wrinkles!
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http://lighttherapyoptions.com/

And other have try it in the past, but these guys at the link are of my trust.

Ciao]]>Oct 23rd 2008 7:57PM