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http://seekingalpha.com/article/104608-nvidia-corporation-f3q09-qtr-end-10-26-08-earnings-call-transcript?page=-1
"Marv Burkett

Tegra is doing really well. And I’ve said that Tegra was not ready for production this year because the design win process tends to be longer. And I also have said that Tegra is coming out party is really spring of next year. So, I look forward to talking to you much more about that, spring of next year."]]>Nov 7th 2008 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
As for Tegra.... hmmm! nVidia are quite able to build a great mobile platform but it looks like it is only an attempt to push their mobile 3D technology further into mass consumer electronics. That's where they will shine, but I wouldn't hold my breath about the rest. On the other hand I like nVidia and will be please to be proven wrong.]]>Nov 7th 2008 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/you're an idiot. take a look at this http://pleasefixtheiphone.com/ you can't even tell me that features in the top 20 aren't well, STANDARD on other smartphones. isn't just the copy/paste that you get made fun of. sms forwarding? didn't know it couldn't do that, thats pathetic]]>Nov 7th 2008 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/here it is again... This phone is not a patch on what the IPhone could be if jobs got his head out his ass... Basically the IPhone's GUI is state of the art fantastic BUT PATENTED! No one else will come close :(
Why the hell does jobs insist on crippling his products by purposely and quite unnecessarily having the best user experience yet hold back features, he's a shit! The hardware could easily offer them yet he sort of teases us with what could have been's. IPhone ‘could’ have been the only phone to buy had jobs "allowed" open software development, total blue tooth support, full WiFi, Normal phone provider functions such as video calling, multimedia messages, etc.

WHY APPLE! WHATS your problem!!! Arrr yes they could do it easily yet they DONT! WHY?? at the kind of price they ask for the dam phone yes they dam could!]]>Nov 7th 2008 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
What they really need to do in order to shift the tide in their favor is sell a WinMo Pro device unlocked new for 199$ or less.]]>Nov 7th 2008 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1591

Windows Mobile is going into high gear, with many great devices like the Samsung Omnia and HTC Touch HD. RIM better look out.]]>Nov 7th 2008 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/I don't have a problem with WinMo, the default UI is god awful but there are so many replacement shells around it isn't hard to make it look nice. It's exactly what puts me off the iPhone, the complete lack of customization and an inability to replace built in programs with better 3rd party versions.]]>Nov 7th 2008 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/you dont know how many different UIs i've run on my winmo phones in the last year. i'm on my 3rd radically different UI. original att UI, then htc home, now manilla 2d.
But MS, if you're going to do anything, make the OS smaller faster, and more streamlined. Sure there are some features that i would love to have (can't save text messages as read anymore while you're in the inbox w/ 6.1, this bugs me) threaded sms (check) is great, but fix the damn PIE browser. jay sherman would say, "IT STINKS".
Sure the UI could use some tweaks for the common folk, but i think most power users know that you can completely change the UI. and if you're not a power user, i'm betting that you have the dork in your IT dept, or one of your younger, more tech savy co workers that is. ]]>Nov 7th 2008 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
Microsoft have tried with WM to basically replicate the Windows experience and interface on a phone, but I don't think people want that at all anymore, and it certainly won't work well with touchscreen phones. Heres what they should do:

- Throw out all the UI they've created for previous versions
- Stop trying to make it Windows on a phone
- Perhaps rebrand the OS as something fresher, drop the Windows brand even?
- Take a look at all their competitors UIs and see whats good about them and whats bad...theres no such thing as 'stealing' in the design world!
- Work with your hardware manufacturers more and take a few of their ideas for it too, some of them have done things with WM6 that I would never have believed possible, HTC for instance.

They've got a strong existing ecosystem to compete with Apple and Android, but they're going to lose the battle fast on usability and 'prettiness'. From what I've seen of WM7, it really won't cut it, certainly not for me, and I *like* Windows Mobile!]]>Nov 7th 2008 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
Perhaps they will jettison this in WinMo 7, but that will negate one of the most major advantages of the OS.]]>Nov 7th 2008 6:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
For your complaints on PIE I recommend Opera, or better yet Skyfire. I personally use both on my Shadow. I use Opera for Engadget and Skyfire for everything else. PIE isn't the only browser out there.]]>Nov 8th 2008 9:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Posts tagged iPhone: 64 pages worth (http://www.engadget.com/tag/iPhone/page/64)
Posts tagged windows mobile: 20 pages worth (http://www.engadget.com/tag/windows%20mobile/page/20)
Posts tagged Apple: 136 pages worth]]>Nov 7th 2008 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
Instead of welcoming all into the tech arena, they always try to pick sides. Mostly Apple's.]]>Nov 7th 2008 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
Good thing Engadget doesn't pre-screen comments. What y'all are saying is true, but I get a lot of good info on other stuff here. Do what I do and just scroll right past any title with "iPhone" or "Mac" in the title.]]>Nov 7th 2008 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
Just like Tom Cruise.]]>Nov 7th 2008 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
Anyway, the default UI is, indeed, rubbish. Fortunately WinMo has the most configurable UI available so you're not stuck with it - use SPB Shell or one of HTC or Samsung's variants if you want. Hell, cook you own if you want. WinMo will let you unlike some fruit based phones or ones that claim to be open source. You can even strip down the whole OS if that's your bag. Go on, knock yourself out.

As for the crashing, well yeah but that's true of every smartphone and WinMo is no worse than the others so we can file that under "so what?".

I have a Samsung Omnia which runs WinMo 6.1 under Samsung's TouchWiz UI. My one irritation is that the browser - the superb Opera 9.5 - doesn't support flash on the phone because the ROM has FlashLite 2, not FlashLite 3. However, I'm installing a custom ROM tomorrow that wil correct this. Try doing that on an iPhone.]]>Nov 7th 2008 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
Isn't that the problem with 99% of the negativity directed at non-apple products? I have absolutely no idea what is wrong with Vista, but I keep waiting for it to fuck my girlfriend and kick my dog because iDouches won't shut the hell up about it.

Same thing with WinMo. I have news for everyone on this blog: I soft-reset my Diamond every morning. Not because it needs it, but because it takes a whopping 2 minutes while I brush my teeth. I've had to soft-reset that phone two other times (non-scheduled) in over a month, once because of a registry edit (huh? "what's that," says iDouche). So basically, with a tiny little amount of preventative effort, I get 24x7 reliable usage out of WinMo (less that crappy Sprint signal in the hills). I used an iPhone once. It's not alive anymore. That's all I have to say about that.

PS. Does anyone else think it is ironic, even downright hypocritical that Apple put out that PC vs. Mac promo where PC is counting money for advertising? Really, Apple? You sure about that? I can't turn on my goddamn TV without being inundated with irritating iPhone ads featuring Mr. Hand and Mr. Annoying Voice. Combine that with iPod commercials featuring Ms. Crappy Indie Rock, and holy shit. God I hate that company so much.]]>Nov 7th 2008 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
I used to use opera 9.5 too but then i got into they skyfire beta and its by far the best and fastest mobile browser around, and with ver 0.8 the beta just went open its available on both WinMO and symbian http://www.skyfire.com/

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Step 1 - select the icon for contacts
Step 2 - select the photo of the person I want to call
Step 3 - talk to the person

That takes me all of 2 second to do. Exactly how is that such an issue that you need to borrow someone else's phone to make a call?]]>Nov 7th 2008 1:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
hold phone
type few letters of last name or first name
select name
pick txt, or call or email
do whatever I picked...

all in about 3 seconds...

I've yet to find a pretty UI on any kind of device that is as efficient. I want to use my phone, not fuck it.


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Tegra is just so awesome. Even though I know it's built for WinCE, NVidia's CEO just said it will be available for different OSes. And that's where the real money is. Android running on Tegra http://www.talkandroid.com/android-forums/android-hardware/341-t-mobile-g2-phone.html]]>Nov 7th 2008 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
My ATT Tilt now does all the fancy stuff the iPhone can do (and more) as for as touch interactivity.

WinMo is like a base with the shell I chose to put on it. The Guys at XDA can be thanked for all the cool WinMo skins. You can even get some to look exactly like the screen shot above, but there are a lot better ones out there.]]>Nov 7th 2008 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
Dead easy.

Some people seem to make the error that because some phones only offer you one way to do things that this is true of all phones. It's not.]]>Nov 8th 2008 6:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
Step2: If the phone won't work properly without the task manager, start over, rebuild from scratch until it does.]]>Nov 7th 2008 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/The level of customization of WInmob is insane.
Just like a perfectly fit tailored suit. Specially made for the user of the suit.
I have never understood the mind of a non WInmob user.
Doesent he get frustrated?? Deosent he feel in Jail?
Not been able to do as you please Freedom may I say?

For all That Thanks Microsoft, your products represent another option.]]>Nov 7th 2008 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/
The task manager is there because, like Microsoft tends to do, they give you options, like making it like a regular phone or a multi-tasking phone. They didn't make a nifty task manager, but you can download many task managers to replace it. SPB comes by default with a better task manager. There's another one that mimics panels on the X1, where the panels are your running tasks.


Its called choice. In the tech world, there was a time when people actually wanted it.]]>Nov 7th 2008 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Nov 7th 2008 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/windows-mobile-6-5-confirmed-by-steve-ballmer-might-solve-half/Great title !]]>Nov 7th 2008 5:02PM