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I hope they are half that price within a few months.]]>Nov 15th 2008 5:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.scan.co.uk/Index.aspx?NT=1-0-91-593-0

I suppose the pound being worth $1.49 does have its merits - we don't get ripped off as much.]]>Nov 15th 2008 6:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/
ye lol good point 'ripped off, as much'

hopefully AMD will bring out it's new processor with something extra so Intel is forced to drop the price of the i7 just like Nvidia had to drop the price of the GTX200's]]>Nov 15th 2008 8:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 10:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 5:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 5:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 6:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/If I'm not mistaken, they should come dual soon..]]>Nov 15th 2008 6:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/
From everything I have read, they wont bother to release a Dual in the high end market, likely only the low end one. The only caveat here may be one of yields. With a true 4 core architecture, we might end up seeing Tri or Dual Core chips after all depending on how bad their manufacturing process is. They could take a failed 920 and release a 3 core 820 or 2 core 720. All speculation there of course as Intel Fabs tend to be some of the most best.

In the high end market, we will supposedly see 8 core models pop up in 2009.
They will be producing them for servers, so its not a far stretch to imaging an enthusiast desktop variant.
And keep in mind they have Hyperthreading on these chips, so with that enabled, poor little task manager would show 16 CPU Graphs if you had a single 8 core with HT enabled.]]>Nov 15th 2008 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/$300 compared to $100-150 for a decent core 2 duo / core 2 quad motherboard. Then add an extra few hundred dollars for the price of DDR3 memory. Maybe an i7 and an X58 motherboard gets you an additional 10-20% in some apps, but the $300-500 dollars you save getting a core 2 is money you can dump into more RAM, better graphics cards, faster hard drives, etc. that will give you a much more significant boost. Heck with the money you save not going with an i7 pick up a decent 24" monitor to game on =)

These reek a lot of the willamette core p4's - they were nice and definitely a step up from the pIII in some debatable respects, but when the revised northwood cores hit they really made it worth spending the extra $. If the current 45nm quads top out at around 3.8Ghz and the 920 doesn't give me any extra overclocking headroom (reviews have the 920 topping out at ~3.8 as well) I'll wait for a chip that does. So i7 works and offers a small performance gain for a large chunk of change - I'm underwhelmed - now give me an updated i7 six months from now with a die shrink (less power/heat & more overclocking headroom), a cheaper / wider selection of ddr3, and a compatible $150 overclocking motherboard and I'll think about it.]]>Nov 15th 2008 6:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Some people don't need to worry about saving a few hundred dollars, so you can't make a blanket statement that they are not worth it.

Personally I miss the days when upgrading the CPU actual made the computer work faster... an upgrade from a 68000 to a 68030 resulted in an appreciably faster experience.... then going to an '040 produced another noticeable boost in speed for all aspects of the user experience (showing my age a bit there)

Nowadays I buy a new whizz bang PC with a much faster CPU etc and yet the overall user experience is no faster.....

I guess if you are a "gamer" then it makes a difference, but what about all us non gamers that want things to happen quicker ???

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Very true, and very good post. It would be wise to wait until those ridiculous motherboard prices drop a bit.

@Gradoman

Do you know if they run cooler than Core2 Q series?]]>Nov 15th 2008 9:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/
1. The MCH on the CPU, memory operations are lightning face now that the memory controller is on the CPU
2. Hyper Transport makes a comeback, remember how awesome P4 HT was? If you have a 4 core i7, it is seen as 8 threads in the OS, multiple in/out
3. The L3 cache design, obviously notes take from AMD, is a significant gain in performance.
4. Scoff at DDR3 and the motherboards all you want, but the SAME thing happens EVERY time a new processor comes out you dolt. Sweet spot to buy a i7 system will be 1-2 years from now, when the revised i7's are out and DDR3 is at a good price.

There are many more advantages: see http://www.techspot.com/review/124-intel-core-i7-920-940-965/

Take a step back and back down, you shame computer nerds everywhere with you naivete... ]]>Nov 15th 2008 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/
If you have Q9400 or better currently, and you do NOT do a ton of Video Encoding or 3D rendering, all the reviews I have read say the same thing. Stay with your current machine, there is no reason to spend $700+ to switch to i7

However, if your still running on a Pentium 4 / Pentium D / Athlon62 X2 / Opteron 1xx/2xx, then you will see significant gains with even the most modest i7 machine (920 with the cheapest motherboard (still $250 or more) and 3GB of DDR3 (3 x 1GB)).

Personally I am running a Dual CPU Opteron 252 (2 Chips, each single core 2.6Ghz) with 4GB of DDR1.
While it was spanking P4s when I first got it, now my lowly E6600 Media Center in the other room is even faster when it comes to certain tasks.
Add to that my personal feeling that nVidia Motherboards suck, but nVidia graphics rule, and your in a tight spot for an upgrade. The ICH9R/10R spanks the nVidia MCP all day long.
Now along comes the x58 and you have a motherboard based on an Intel chipset WITH ICH10R -AND- you can run SLI.
For me its a pretty easy answer which direction I want to go.
Now comes the cost decision. $1000 on a basic i7 machine ($600 for the 940 chip, $300 for the Board and at least $100 for the RAM) OR put together a Q9550/780i/4GB DDR2 machine for $700 or less. Thats where I am still struggling to justify the new hotness.]]>Nov 15th 2008 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/
"4. Scoff at DDR3 and the motherboards all you want, but the SAME thing happens EVERY time a new processor comes out you dolt. Sweet spot to buy a i7 system will be 1-2 years from now, when the revised i7's are out and DDR3 is at a good price."

You just listed lots of nice little improvements that don't offer much speed increase (same with willamette or prescott) AND you agree that it'll take a year or two for prices for a complete i7 build to settle down to more appropriate levels. You agree with virtually everything I say and then call me an idiot? Am I missing something here??]]>Nov 15th 2008 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/
"2. Hyper Transport makes a comeback, remember how awesome P4 HT was? If you have a 4 core i7, it is seen as 8 threads in the OS, multiple in/out"

umm... HyperTransport is a type of connection between processor and northbridge, used by AMD as an alternative to the inferior Front-Side Bus (FSB).
What you're talking about is Hyper-*threading*.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperTransport
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading]]>Nov 16th 2008 1:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/
The Core i7 is not for gaming?! Are you sure? Maybe you should read this article:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i7-multigpu-sli-crossfire-game-performance-review/]]>Nov 17th 2008 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/
My q6700 @ 3.7ghz will have to do me until sometime next year when these prices go down, cant believe intel thought this pricing would sell in volume, far too expensive! And there wont even be cheaper boards out as this socket 1366 will only last 1yr, the cheaper boards will use a different socket lol.]]>Nov 15th 2008 6:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/
Have you all read the benchmarks at all...?

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3453&p=3

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3453]]>Nov 15th 2008 8:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/
Because I remember a blog entry not so far ago, pics from a killer computer that showed a screenie of the hardware manager. There were 8 cores running @ 3,2GHz :O]]>Nov 15th 2008 7:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 8:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 8:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/276507/intel-core-i7-x58-motherboards-trip]]>Nov 15th 2008 9:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/11/11/intel-core-i7-cpu-value/1

it shows an overclocked Q6600 is still the budget king in gaming. 3.6ghz Q6600 > 4.0ghz i7 920.

non-gaming/applications tho, i7 kicks ass. so dont worry if u have a q6600.]]>Nov 15th 2008 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/Nov 15th 2008 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/
If they did, then performance on any DDR2 modules installed would have to be abysmal based on how the new architecture works.]]>Nov 16th 2008 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/15/intel-core-i7-listings-show-up-on-newegg-to-tease-you-then-spli/http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=n82e16819115202

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=n82e16819115201

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=n82e16819115200
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