http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/ Engadget Comments for Motorola and SE pinpointed, may face tough time "weathering the storm" http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 9:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 9:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 10:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/
Actually, that is the point. How american is an american company that has all it's factories overseas? Isn't that the point of Made in America? lol. It's not bringing anymore jobs to the U.S. Motorola has plenty of other endeavours they are making money on. Their cellphone dept. could go bankrupt and it would just be a drop in the bucket, because really, if it mattered to them, they would be pumping out alot better product then they are. Nice flame fail though.

Oh and Apple and Microsoft make products overseas too. But both of those companys have HUGE amounts of employers. So much, that they have to have "campuses" Comparing Motorola to Apple and Microsoft was also a FAIL. Not even close to being a good comparison. ]]>Nov 17th 2008 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Actually Motorola does have multiple campuses, some are huge (bigger than Apples and I have been to both).

Oh, and Motorola's cell phone division employs a lot of American employees. It is true that Motorola does not manufacture here, but they employ a lot of engineers and support personal. Even the recent layoffs hit Motorola Europe much more than in the US.
Motorola is an American icon and the loss would be terrible. Hopefully they can start selling a lot more phones. I would rather get an American phone than a Finnish or Chinese one.
In other words, don't talk about stuff you have no idea about.]]>Nov 18th 2008 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Actually Motorola does have multiple campuses, some are huge (bigger than Apples and I have been to both).

Oh, and Motorola's cell phone division employs a lot of American employees. It is true that Motorola does not manufacture here, but they employ a lot of engineers and support personal. Even the recent layoffs hit Motorola Europe much more than in the US.
Motorola is an American icon and the loss would be terrible. Hopefully they can start selling a lot more phones. I would rather get an American phone than a Finnish or Chinese one.
In other words, don't talk about stuff you have no idea about.]]>Nov 18th 2008 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/
It's intresting to see if Moto or SE would really start losing their hold, who would fill the void? My bet would be Samsung while Nokia keeping the 38-40% market share.]]>Nov 17th 2008 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/
SE's phones are bought by people who like the camera models which are very good, or the walkman stuff which is good for the casual music/pod listener. People who are really serious about music get iphone/ipods since they think that is the only thing out there. SE's market was mostly Europe, and Apple's released the iphones there. SE has a number of mid-range models that have Desktop RSS, GPS and Video conferencing on the Java platform, but they suffer from battery issues when these items are actually used. All their phones have push email, syncML, and Exchange. Full contact information (home + business info, personal info) and fully sync with Outlook (and some with Lotus). And even non-Walkman branded phones have the Walkman application in them. ATT is offering streaming video (HBO, Comedy Central, MLB Gameday, etc) on some SE models along with XM radio.. They don't have the money to advertise the superior base functionality of thier phones to many others on the market.

If people move to iphones for music, and only care about the SE camera phones and their low-mid range designer phones, there isn't much place for SE to make money even if SE customers turn over their phones frequently.]]>Nov 17th 2008 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/
When Nokia announced the N95 someone from SE stated that they don't believe that an all-in-one phone like N95 could be succesful. The rest is history.]]>Nov 17th 2008 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/
Considering that SE got Sony behind them it's not easy to understand why they don't they shine on these areas like they once did when they where giving Nokia hard time in 2003-2004. Thought hopefully SE survives because i got some faith that they can still make killer phone.]]>Nov 17th 2008 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 17th 2008 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/Nov 24th 2008 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/motorola-and-se-pinpointed-may-face-tough-time-weathering-the/
This is a mis-understood. SE phones come with a proprietary jack for charging, audio in/out, and as an antennae for FM. This short cord, connects to a 3.5mm jack. They also have headphones and handsfree that attach directly to the phone. I've had phones and other devices with 3.5 jacks, they loosen up, they don't hold tight to the phone and sometimes there are variances on the left/right connections, the SE jacks DO NOT HAVE THESE ISSUES, and you can use ANY headphone you like if you wish. And if your phone didn't come with the short connector, they cost under $5 at many web retailers. They have a great bluetooth stereo solution anyway.

The same thing goes for the bluetooth stereo wireless headset they have, HBH-DS980 - people complain that it doesn't have a micro USB connection for connecting. However, it can be charged with the same charger that charges any SE phone. It's a good solid connection thanks to the 'prongs' on it. It's not going to be accidently pulled out. ]]>Nov 17th 2008 6:43PM