http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/ Engadget Comments for More "Vista Capable" emails unsealed, revealing sassy civil war http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
1) Intel is the one who pressured Microsoft into putting Vista Capable stickers all over non-capable computers.
2) Intel is the one who developed HDCP, and pressured Apple into including the standard in their DRM
3) Intel is the one who continues to keep the USB 3.0 standard from being released to the public.

The problem is that Intel operates behind the scenes, and when the ish hits the fan, the companies that deal with them are the ones that take the hit.]]>Nov 18th 2008 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
Or something like that.

It's complicated.]]>Nov 18th 2008 7:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 9:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
I'm an Apple fan. Always have been, always will be. Probably fair to call me a fanboy.

But your comment embarrasses even me.]]>Nov 18th 2008 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
Powerpc fans are going to give me hate mail for this... sorry but snow leopard has to happen!]]>Nov 18th 2008 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
Don't you mean Hyperthermia?]]>Nov 18th 2008 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 9:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
But Windows, is sold worldwide for any number of machines, including built ones. Microsoft has no control over system specs.

I have a HP Dv7835nr (and I've bought other HP computers running XP). I love Windows Vista. But the problem is obvious. You can't simply upgrade an old computer to Vista without losing something. Vista has steep requirements due to all the eye candy and therefore requires no less than a NEW computer with 2GB RAM, DUAL CORE CPU and a Video Accelerator chipset.

I've NEVER had a problem with my laptop. My sister and two Uncles have the same series laptop and they've had Hard Drive failures. Is that Microsoft's fault? NO.

Microsoft is the largest maker of internet software and Operating systems. so therefore, they get targeted by malicious software makers inporportionately than apple does. I've had PLENTY of problems with Leopard and plenty of problems with Tiger. In fact, my friend Joyce bought a brand new Macbook Pro running the latest Leopard and she keeps asking me why does the computer go into hard freezes and require complete rebooting.


I'd also like to say that I've had more problems with Leopard than I have with Tiger (and the same goes for Tiger vs. Leopard Server).

This is a quality control issue across different platforms. ]]>Nov 18th 2008 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
On the same side of the issue, OSX users would have the same frustrations as Windows users if Apple did not have the closed loop process they employ]]>Nov 18th 2008 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
I'm using Vista on a decent new PC and personally it is quite good save a couple of small niggles, although I would not let Vista anywhere near my severly underpowered laptop.]]>Nov 18th 2008 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
Windows Vista Crap-able.
]]>Nov 18th 2008 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
Let's hope MS finally learns some expectation management skills for Windows 7...]]>Nov 18th 2008 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
Microsoft needs to stop having self esteem problems and stand up to thugs like Intel. If a chipset is inherently buggy like the 915, why in hell would you compromise quality? The Vista capable specs should have forced manufacturers to include a DX10 compatible card. The 430 chipset from nvidia was the same bottom feeder dreck as the 915.

Microsoft needs to more strictly enforce its driver models. Hoepfully they won't backslide on the signed x64 driver rule when all new OSs are 64-bit only.]]>Nov 18th 2008 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
I hope whoever is suing is successful. Then they can turn and smack the shit out of intel. Because they truly deserve it.]]>Nov 18th 2008 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
Microsoft takes advantage of the Monopoly they endure and slam it down on people. Give it another 5-10 years and Microsoft won't be leading company anymore I presume. ]]>Nov 18th 2008 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
Vista was available to consumers in January 2007, SP1 came out in mid-March 2008, so a little over a year.
XP was released in October 2001, with SP1 coming out in September 2002, so a little under a year. not much of a time difference here, so release times are in line with previous releases. so i wouldnt say that it was too long, also keep in mind the incredibly vast number of devices Windows must support. Creating a SP thus becomes a daunting task.

"And most people can't even update to that.. "

this problem was fixed a loooong time ago, and shortly after the release of SP1.

Let's us also keep in mind that the vast majority of Vista crashes were a result of poorly written drivers by device manufacturers. With nVidia leading the way being responsible for 30% of all crashes (http://www.windowsvistaweblog.com/2008/03/29/nvidia-causes-early-vista-crashes/). If you really think Microsoft will be irrelevant in 5-10 years, well, i believe you are missing quite a few brain cells. You dont just fall from a 90% market share to the point of non-relevance in that short of a time period. Microsoft seems to recognise the problems that were involved with the Vista launch, and are correcting them in 7.

and as far as this report goes, while Microsoft was certainly a large part of the problem, the real villains here are the Intel execs. ]]>Nov 18th 2008 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/]]>Nov 18th 2008 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/
In fact, on the Beta versions of Vista that did not require WDDM, Aero ran on GMA900 graphics.]]>Nov 18th 2008 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 18th 2008 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Dec 2nd 2008 12:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 19th 2008 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/18/more-vista-capable-e-mails-unsealed-revealing-sassy-civil-war/Nov 26th 2008 12:03AM