http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/ Engadget Comments for Searaser floating pump will use the ocean's waves to generate power http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 10:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 10:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 10:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/
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Heart progress, it hearts you.]]>Nov 19th 2008 11:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 20th 2008 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 10:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/
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My heart says yes, balls concur; brain altogether scoffs.]]>Nov 19th 2008 11:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 10:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 20th 2008 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/
we might not see them in the US, but I would not be surprised if they popped up in the UK or various private islands. The utility of it would be rather interesting for creating artificial hydroelectric, though someone is bound to find a drawback of pumping seawater up onto dry land.

Just make sure you jiggle the handle on the way out...]]>Nov 19th 2008 10:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/]]>Nov 19th 2008 11:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 20th 2008 12:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/]]>Nov 19th 2008 11:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/1,2,3 EVERYBODY REPORT UPP!!!]]>Nov 19th 2008 11:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 11:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 20th 2008 12:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 20th 2008 3:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 11:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 11:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/
there's your problem]]>Nov 20th 2008 12:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/
The "waste" produced by the micro reactors is tiny compared to these things. As also mentioned above, they have moving parts, which means [much] more failures, and therefore more waste. The reactors last 10 years before needing to be refueled (and it's a tiny amount of fuel). Don't bring up the whole "leaky barrels" of nuclear waste bs....there have never been any leaky barrels....it's a scary story people tell you to brainwash you...I challenge anyone to prove it is true!

The cost of nuclear is FAR FAR FAR cheaper than this could ever be! The efficiency of a system like this would have to be among the lowest of any energy technologies.

The mini reactors power 10,000 homes each. The toilet plungers power 470 homes each. That's a ratio higher than 21! That means it would take 21 of these plungers to equal a single mini reactor! Remember, the mini reactors are about the size of a hot tub (much smaller than the plungers, which must reach the ocean floor). This amounts to a humungous environmental impact to achieve any useful amount of energy. Someone mentioned above the only prospect I see for this tech: small islands. In fact, it's a pretty good idea for them, as long as it doesn't destroy the beauty of the seascape or impact the coral reefs too much (big ifs there).]]>Nov 20th 2008 12:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/
when you consider the cost of nuclear power compared to this, are you taking into account the 100,000 years of storage of the waste?

Nuclear is the wrong answer. end of story. nothing says fuck you to the generations of the future better than a nuclear waste storage facility.

also what you apparently fail to understand is that there isnt a one solution fits all answer. things like this will be good for coastal areas. Other areas people will live not far from a desert, or a windy range, or geothermal activity or a combination of all four. There will be advancements in transmission tech so we can transfer further for less loss. and there will be other advancments in 'battery' tech so energy can be stored chemically and reproduced.

some business and governments might want nuke power, so they can continue to mine and and sell a commodity for energy. but the people dont want it(near them) and it would be grossly irresponsible unless we figure out something better to do with the waste than bury it.



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But this would be a good power source for a carbon-neutral deep sea facility.]]>Nov 20th 2008 6:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/
You are wrong on many points and chastise me with a point I made myself.

First, the point I made myself that you flamed about: this technology will have its uses in a few [very limited] locations. I said that too....reread.

On to the points you're wrong about: nuclear is by far the cheapest, even considering storage. Look it up! The storage "facilities" you speak of aren't like auto salvage yards. They are limestone "caves" very deep below mountains. Build it, put the stuff in it, seal it off, and forget about it. It won't budge before the radioactivity is gone, I promise (reprocessing can reduce the lifetime to 300 years). Today's nuclear technology is extremely efficient. The amount of waste actually produced is miniscule! To put it in perspective, the US has accumulated a TOTAL of about 50,000 tons of nuclear waste....that's TOTAL, and nuclear power efficiency has improved drastically since most of our current reactors went online....we could do so much better than we are now even! US annual battery waste (which includes mercury, cadmium, and lead) is about 146,000 tons. That's per year! According to a Scientific American article, coal waste is up to 100 times more radioactive than nuclear waste. The worst component is called fly ash. As of 2005, U.S. coal-fired power plants reported producing 71.1 million tons of fly ash, of which 29.1 million tons was reused in various applications. That leaves 42,000,000 tons that is put in.....wait......this gets good.........LANDFILLS.

You also have a very poor grasp of electrical transmission (I worked briefly for a power company) and energy storage technology advancement in general. First of all, there will be no advancements in electrical transmission that will "save" us as you unfortunately believe. The laws of electromagnetism (which I teach) simply do not allow it. Even if we develop microwave transmission (I do radar research too), there will be huge losses. It ain't gonna happen.....ever (not even in 1,000 years or whatever your idea of the "distant" future is). Furthermore, advancements in chemical batteries are painfully slow. On top of that, chemical batteries are nearing "perfection" and won't advance a whole heck of a lot further. You are wrong about these wonderful chemical-based storage techs of the future. If anything, supercapacitors is the only future storage tech that will improve our current efficiency appreciably, unless some completely revolutionary idea comes along (neither capacitor nor chemical battery). But what? Gravity? There aren't a whole lot of choices....chemical, electrical (capacitors), physical (gravity), um....anything else?]]>Nov 20th 2008 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 19th 2008 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 20th 2008 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/We actually have a better chance of seeing Micro Nuclear, because well, the technology has been proven in the research environment. Bringing to the Consumer ( which will more then likely be industry rather then residential) is a matter of getting approval. The nice thing is that the NGNP project is doing the hard work in approving the advanced materials and the fuel for such a reactor.

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I know it's a massive system and small human intervention is unlikely to have any effect but that's what we thought about Dodos, the Tasmanian Tiger and Co2 in the atmosphere.]]>Nov 20th 2008 1:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://eecs.oregonstate.edu/wesrf/]]>Nov 20th 2008 2:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/
I doubt that's what it does, but by your summary, thats my understanding.]]>Nov 20th 2008 3:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/
Now if we're looking to create another dustbowl....]]>Nov 20th 2008 9:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/Nov 20th 2008 3:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/2325/54/]]>Nov 20th 2008 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/searaser-floating-pump-will-use-the-oceans-waves-to-generate-po/
The moving parts are large and simple and all the complicated turbines, etc are on the shore, where it's easy to work on them.
Desalination is possible using high-pressure seawater (reverse osmosis), so it can be used for fresh-water generation as well as power.

As others have said, why limit ourselves to only one method of generating electricity? Use wind where it's windy, solar where it's sunny, wave/tidal where it's wet, and geothermal where it's shaky!
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