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Of all those that I know that have RRODed, all have been 2005 and 2006 consoles. ]]>Nov 20th 2008 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
The extremely high failure rate of Xbox 360 is well documented. There are some major design issues that will likely continue to cause failures until the next console from MS is released. ]]>Nov 20th 2008 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
Completely irrelevant. A small percentage of PS3s have bricked from firmware updates. Hell, even the Wii has. But the 360 is a totally different story. The amount of them that break is exponentially higher and the REASONS they break are far more varied. So the PS3 losing a few units to a firmware update is nowhere near the fiasco of the RRODs.]]>Nov 20th 2008 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
meanwhile, a 2nd X360 I picked up in early 2007 has died twice.]]>Nov 20th 2008 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
You missed the point in your rush to defend the PS3 and interject irrelevance.

The point is that firmware updates can brick all electronics (including the PS3 and Wii). Just because a few XBs are bricking from a firmware update doesn't mean it's related to the RROD fiasco. Sometimes it's just insufficiently tested code regardless of the quality of the hardware.]]>Nov 20th 2008 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
The person who'd used it last had their clock set for LONDON time Zone so that must mean it came from there.

As for this "new experience"

I HATE IT

If I'd wanted a goddamned MII character, I'd have bought one of those piece o shit WII's. I tried to design my character but a bunch of options are missing. Black gloves, black suit, Walther PPK pistol...It PISSED ME OFF SO MUCH.

Now all the menu's are hard to navigate. I want MY OLD 360 EXPERIENCE BACK.]]>Nov 20th 2008 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
A lot of the failures are older consoles, sure, but new ones are still failing too. My latest system, an Arcade purchased in August, lasted 36 days before it got teh RRoD. ]]>Nov 20th 2008 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
I don't have a 360 or anything, but uh.. isn't this new experience supposed to be completely optional? If you don't like the face of progress, don't accept it. Easy enough.]]>Nov 20th 2008 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
When you make 20 millions consoles, you bout to get some bad ones right? Of course you do it happends to any mass production. nothing is perfect. now all we see and heard is ppl with rrod, but how many is that. 5% -10% maybe. The point is that we will see bad units from time to time. I'm sure you heard from friends that their cell phones, ipod, computers,gps,bluettoth,tv, dvd, etc etc have some bugs and not working as it should. So yes the RRoD are still around. to sad for the one that got it. ]]>Nov 20th 2008 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
Ah, my bad. So using the avatars and the gumdrop lollipop experience is mandatory, or can't you just switch back to the blade interface?]]>Nov 20th 2008 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
The console was only launched on 22nd November 2005!]]>Nov 20th 2008 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 4:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
You can't switch back no, if some people don't like the new dash they will have to suffer it.

I am not all the bothered with it either way. I do like how it is faster (more responsive) and that party chat is now included, I like the new guide as well I guess. Since I am in the UK we can't get Netflix, the real highlight, so for non-US customers it is certainly lacking (there isn't all that much to get excited about). Don't get me wrong, it's fresh and easy to use, it is definitley better, but I can't help but feel we are missing a huge chunk of the features without Netflix (which every single review of the NXE holds as the main feature, or to qoute engadget "the big-daddy feature")..

I am sure it will pan out to be good in the long run for non-US customers once some of the functionality is expanded on with more apps, but untill then, we are missing out over here ...again]]>Nov 20th 2008 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
I am one of those that bought the console when it came out. Pre-ordering it on gamestop.com a month or so before it came out and got one from FedEx on launch day. I still have and use somewhat regularly (I got married the following May) the original console. I have since bought (on eBay) an additional console because my wife likes to play with me.

And yes, I am a very lucky man. Now I just need to buy a second copy of COD:W@W]]>Nov 21st 2008 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/My xbox 360 got the RROD within minutes of downloading the new xbox experience. It's an unmodded 2007 model and I do not play all that often. Microsoft is the next GM.]]>Nov 24th 2008 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/I replied to the wrong person.

Now, to correct:
Damn economy!]]>Nov 20th 2008 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 7:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
When Gears came out, "Gears bricked my 360"
When Forza came out, "Forza bricked my 360"
When COD4 came out, "COD4 bricked my 360"

It's called coincidence, and it happens when tens of millions of people all download the same software on the same day.]]>Nov 20th 2008 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
And if you say anything else to the contrary my avatar will kick your ass!!!]]>Nov 20th 2008 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
Many 360s are bricks waiting to happen. When something is the big seller/downloader, the machines that were just about ready to expire were likely to expire while running that popular software.

Basically, 360s are of awful quality. The old ones much more so then the new ones though.

Viva Pinata 2 is what ate my most recent 360, the one I had to pay to replace because MS doesn't cover optical drive problems under the 3-year RRoD warranty.]]>Nov 20th 2008 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
I just hope mine continues to work. This would be a terrible month to be missing my 360!]]>Nov 20th 2008 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
lasted a good 2 years though, i was surprised, i thought i got lucky.]]>Nov 20th 2008 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
My biggest gripe about the NXE is how long it takes to get up and running. I tried to do it yesterday before a meeting I had at work, and between multiple downloads and reboots, I was watching the clock.. then that god-awful 2 minute intro video played, I said fuck it, shut everything off, and went to work.

The NXE is very clean looking. You could say MS tried too hard to make it pretty, but the old "blade" setup had an odd mix of elements on the screen. You'd switch blades, but also be able to move around in 2-d space in the current screen to find options, some of them were extremely poorly laid out. This new interface has a simple up/down, left-right movement that makes sense, even though on first glance it might look more confusing.

I watched the Office in HD last night on Netflix streaming at 500-700k/sec, and the quality was awesome.]]>Nov 20th 2008 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/
Only problems I've had are the friends list lockup (look at friend details and then go back to the friend list and it freezes) but that seems to have stopped happening and the Netflix low-quality stream problem (it defaults to lowest quality for no reason) but again, that seems to have fixed itself as well.

And as far as bricking...it's probably a coincidence in 85 percent of the cases. I would bet 10 of the remaining 15 is user error (like the "disc eating error" when they first came out..."um...i dropped it down a flight of stairs while it was booting the disc and theres a big scratch in it now...this console sucks!!!DURRRR!!!!"). It's probably people who shut it off or something while it was installing...or they changed video source off HDMI which also powers it down. The last 5 percent I would guess are the only ones that actually had a software problem. And in those cases it was probably something like they had a save game for Super Dirt Mover 3: The Revenege of Poorly Coded Man on their HDD and it somehow didn't mesh well with the NXE.]]>Nov 21st 2008 3:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 21st 2008 11:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/20/nxe-hitting-360s-with-red-ring-freezing-and-sorta-sexy-avatar-i/Nov 20th 2008 12:32PM