http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/ Engadget Comments for Better Place's $1 billion electric vehicle grid headed to Bay Area http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 9:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/
Man, Thomas Ricker wouldnt even have a job if it wasnt for people from san francisco... AKA Ryan Block.

Sucks engadget is goin downhill for the past year or so. I used to read it everymorning now it seems like i go a couple days if not a week without even thinking about it.

O by the way if you want to see homelessness check out the homeless shanty towns outside of San Diego. You know because they made it illegal to be homeless to get rid of homlessness]]>Nov 21st 2008 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 9:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 9:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/May 15th 2009 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 9:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 9:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 9:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Do they have sarcasm-refilling stations in South Africa?]]>Nov 21st 2008 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/
I wonder how well charging will go during hot summers when the rolling brownouts occur or worse blackouts.

If these people were intelligent enough to realize manmade global warming is a hoax, they would build some more Electric Plants to actually sustain themselves.

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On betterplace.com it only mentions Renault/Nissan for now and they said they were in talks with Daimler at some point.

Would be great news though if Tesla, GM etc. support Better Place.]]>Nov 21st 2008 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.wired.com/cars/futuretransport/magazine/16-09/ff_agassi


This could actually work if we could get the infrastructure in place.]]>Nov 21st 2008 10:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/
:APPROVE:]]>Nov 21st 2008 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/
How about that? Coincidence? Hardly

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/21/tesla-model-s-sedan-could-have-swappable-battery-pack/]]>Nov 21st 2008 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/
Sure, tax money probably paid for the garage. But the money had to come from somewhere and addressing climate change isn't going to be free.

@BidD145: public transportation is and always will be underutilized. The people that don't take the trains make that choice b/c the trains are typically inconvenient, dirty and malodorous. Giving those people a real incentive to quit belching CO2 is a wonderful idea.

Little side note: Our public train system (the BART) is always inconvenient, dirty and malodorous. But the other reason to not take the BART is lack of parking, not lack of capacity. The suburban stations' lots fill up by 7ish. The urban stations don't even have parking. Oh, and you're not allowed to enter or leave an urban station with a bike during the commute hours. Okay, can't drive to the train. Can't ride my bike to the train. You know what? I didn't really want to sit on that pee stained seat today next to the hobo anyway. Guess I'll drive. ]]>Nov 21st 2008 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/18/tesla-scales-back-range-targets/


I had made that comment back in April 2007 but for some reason it comes up with todays date because I found the comment by looking thru my email and clicked the activate link just now.. why does engadget do that?
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http://www.wired.com/cars/futuretransport/magazine/16-09/ff_agassi
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Battery swapping is an interesting idea but it does really require a subscription model and a lot of infrastructure support. It could work if there's a lot of cooperation between the government and the company. The benefit of course is elimination of the wait time for charging and also the customer doesn't have to foot the whole bill of the battery all at once.

I'm thinking even without battery swapping, a system of street chargers and then rapid chargers distributed in key gas stations will be enough to allow widespread EV usage without the range anxiety. Some of the slower rapid chargers will give you 60-80 miles on a 15 minute charge while the faster ones can give you 80-120 miles on a 10-20 minute charge. I think that is more than reasonable for people who want to travel longer distances. Of course not all battery systems support this kind of charging and there is the issue of power delivery to the station.]]>Nov 21st 2008 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 21st 2008 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/
oh and kjb434, you suck. so do you ajfarson. thats why you're low ranked]]>Nov 23rd 2008 2:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Nov 23rd 2008 2:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/21/better-places-1-billion-electric-vehicle-grid-endorsed-by-bay/Dec 2nd 2008 12:05AM