http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/
Sometimes is better to wait for technology to settle down and mature. I'd rather have a phone that works than one with fantastic (but barely functional) features.]]>Nov 27th 2008 6:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/
For the rest of the world, they do great. I personally love SE though, but Nokia still come out with impressive phones year after year. I know people always whine about how good the Japanese have it, but it hardly bothers me to have a trillion and one features in my mobile. Their market does not appeal to me, and vice versa.]]>Nov 27th 2008 7:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/
I'm not even going to go into the first Bluetooth "ready" phone from AU's service. I spent $300 on the phone and then $275 on the bluetooth adapter - which took two AAA batteries and plugged into the bottom of the phone. That thing, flipped open with the adapter was 25% taller than my head! I felt like a complete tool using that stupid thing.

When I went to L.A. I bought the P910a and was trilled with it. When I went back to Tokyo a year later, I bought an F1000 (or something like that) that was kind of like a knockoff of the Sonyericsson P910a. The stylus was flat like it'd been run over, SUPER slow to turn on (I clocked it in at 6 minutes - so no I never turned it off unless needed). I also had to hack iSync to tell it that it was a P910 as well and the syncing kinda worked ... sometimes.

So sick of everyone saying how advanced Japan is. You really think so? LIVE THERE! Not just a month or two. You need to be there at least 3 years or more. Maybe I have issues, but the first house-hold robot in my home in Japan... was the Roomba vacuum cleaner. Kinda thought it funny they didn't even bother to write the button labels on the thing in Japanese either.]]>Dec 3rd 2008 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/
I've been a Japanese cell phone customer for six years, and only recently switched to an iPhone. Talk about culture shock! I suddenly felt excluded from my friends in terms of email, and I simply can't access any of the standard cell phone sites. The built-in camera is an absolute joke (by any standard, really). Except for the shiny factor, there is little here to tempt the average Japanese consumer. They have robust devices packed with features that double as fashion accessories. They can rely on them to do everything they need without having to be tethered to a computer. It seems pretty obvious to me where the western companies are missing the mark; it's pretty baffling that they haven't been able to knock something together yet that works. ]]>Nov 29th 2008 12:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/
Hey, I'd rather have "Function-overloaded crap-interface phones" as you so well put it, then function-less, underperforming and ugly crap (crap interface included) thats sold in the States. And yes I live(d) in both Japan and US so I have experience with both sides. However you spin it, the trash thats being sold in US for ridiculous prices is 4-5 years behind even the low-end phones in Japan]]>Nov 27th 2008 4:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/
I doubt any of the other non-Japanese mobile phone makers are making much of an impact in the Japanese market. South Korean brands such as LG and Samsung might be somewhat relevant there, I don't know.

For example, what is Motorola's market share in Japan?

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That isn't entirely true. Guess what the top-selling mp3 player is in Japan...unfortunately, yes, its the iPod.]]>Nov 29th 2008 7:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 7:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Dec 3rd 2008 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/
If the U.S. is 4 or 5 years behind Japan, why is it that they just finally got Motorola Razrs just under 2 years ago?]]>Dec 3rd 2008 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Dec 3rd 2008 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 5:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/]]>Nov 27th 2008 4:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 5:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 5:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 4:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Japanese handsets are far advanced from even the N96 .. 1 seg TV tuners have been common for some years.
The Flip and Rotate HUGE and hi-resolution screen is popular for this purpose and for web-browsing.
]]>Nov 27th 2008 5:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/
The japanese firms have a super tight grip on japanese media and japan market and wont allow foreign brands in.]]>Nov 27th 2008 5:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/
# I hope sometimes in future i can talk again with my friend about nokia's "next-week-forever" here in Japan...]]>Nov 27th 2008 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/have you even bothered reading the specs and even trying to look at japanese phones without SH@T F@#$ assuptions? In terms of the smartphone and mp3 arguement its only valid outside of japan... don't ask me... ITS APPLES and osny's fault... japanese love AAC files... thats right AAC... not mp3. And read carefully too, these feature phones actually have a full browser. Before you open your mouth please REAd something instead of an uninformative blog (Engadget... aka a falme blog!)....

As for being locked down those phoens are just as locked down as my rogers phone in CANADA! XD]]>Nov 27th 2008 8:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Indeed they play m4as, but as movies w/o picture. It won't show up in built-in music players(sometimes they have more than one).
Yes, they have Full browsers, Some even have ACCESS Netfront with FL3.1 support, with another 10$ charge atop your no-tethering flat rate data plan.They have sorta Java apps, which code not compatible between carriers. You can have a have PC-like address for mails, but can't use SMS over carriers. If you want to buy one, the cheapest pricetag should be around $70-100 on contract. $450 is typical for most of them.You can at least make a contract for any of your unlocked phones, but flat-rate plans and mail services for locked devices only, so using your own $500 superstrong-superphone in another carrier is very unlikely the case.

I hope this help you understand why Nokia couldn't make it.
Actually I'm a Japanese. I say sorry if you feel my English strange.]]>Nov 29th 2008 4:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 6:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/
They're huge bricks and they're virtually all flip phones. They might have some advanced features but where are the smartphones? If I can't install the applications I want on a phone then it's worthless.

Not to mention how ridiculously expensive and locked down Japanese phones are.]]>Nov 27th 2008 6:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 6:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 6:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 8:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/
Japanese only care about the look

just look at how iphone is doing at Japan]]>Nov 27th 2008 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/27/nokia-pulls-out-of-japan-nobody-notices/Nov 27th 2008 6:48PM