http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/ Engadget Comments for Nokia N97 hands-on part II: the reckoning http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 5th 2008 12:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 5th 2008 2:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/
[Non-Apple device] has [feature F1] but [feature F1] has following [nitpick flaw N1, nitpick flaw N2, etc.]
[Non-Apple device] has [feature F2] but [feature F2] has following [nitpick flaw N3, nitpick flaw N3, etc.]
...

By the way, is the iPhone more pocketable and its keyboard more "clicky" than the N97's???
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You know, rather than just taking the review for what it is -- one of undoubtedly countless different reviews, each one with it's own spin on the matter.

-sums up the comments.]]>Dec 4th 2008 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/ printf("win");
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Just about sums it up here on engadget. I mean, if they took the same mindset that they did with the N97 and applied it to the iPhone, it'd be:

Copy paste (absent), keyboard (none lol), reception (inferion chipset = fail), 3G speeds (meh EDGE-like speed is fine), 3rd party apps (this is actually a _feature_ on a smartphone?) and software (safari crashes constantly) are all considerable hurdles.]]>Dec 4th 2008 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/
Naturally I expect Engadget to pay considerable attention to those firmware updates which improve user experience in the same way they do with other phones.]]>Dec 4th 2008 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 8:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 8:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/
In what WAY the double-tap-to-zoom feature of the browser is annoying. Is it slow response? Word wrap issues? Level of zoom? Inconsistency in performance?

Saying a feature is annoying without explaining WHY doesn't help the average reader, and makes them question the legitimacy of the reviewers opinions. All it takes is a single sentence.

*removes editor cap*]]>Dec 4th 2008 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/The bashing of the review (and thereby the "reviewer") will end the day the do an unbiased review of a product (but hey, they can't say that [insert the name of the phone] is destined to be the iphone killer, because they will stop receiving funding from apple).

@Alan Strangis
That is exactly why i ussually come here for the pictures and some technical info on the devices. The rest, sadly, is crap.]]>Dec 4th 2008 9:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/
@ Student Driver: LOL! Good point on how they don't even bother discussing features that aren't found on the iPhone. :D]]>Dec 4th 2008 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/
but i really expected a boost of S60 GUI in 5th generation

IMO 25% (consumer) look at the GUI for first impression and the icons, themes sets it back to win98 arena. They should really come up with totally blown out GUI (presentation not functionality; they're already good at it).

I own N82 and i'm very fascinated to see n97 hardware specs but really not inspired by the OS

come on Nokia, wake up

others are mainly emphasizing on it and thus are able to capture more market share]]>Dec 5th 2008 5:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/
I'm a huge S60 and Nokia fans, but the flaws pointed out here are real and quite significant.]]>Dec 4th 2008 10:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/
That whole "Apple funding" line is getting really old. You people sound just like right wing nuts who think communists are taking over America. You wanna talk about bias? How about the bias that if a review of a non-Apple product isn't glowing, we have to listen to all you idiots pissing and moaning. You know, not all products deserve a glowing review. And how can you even judge that a review isn't accurate if you've never even seen the damn phone? That's like complaining about a review of a movie you haven't even seen yet. So please, just STFU already you whiny little brats.]]>Dec 4th 2008 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 5th 2008 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/
Here endith the lesson.]]>Dec 5th 2008 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 5th 2008 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 6th 2008 3:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/
Just looking to get this phone in pre-release here through a contact in the next couple of months .. Don't care if it is a prototype or not, I just love Nokia and if the E71 had a 3.5 jack I would of kept it. Well that and a push service. I have and will have a hard time leaving the iPhone not for the great interface, as I like the S60 interface just as much, but because of MobileMe. Me is just awesome with my iPhone and my MBP ... All is always synchronized without even having to connect my iPhone to my MBP. Be it my mails or contact or what ever ...

LOVE IT ....]]>Dec 4th 2008 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/
The most common complaint is that the menus are too complicated and non-intuitive. Ok, for some exotic tasks like changing the screensaver it might take 10 clicks, but seriously, who changes their screensaver often enough to care?

From my N95's home screen i need 1 or 2 clicks to get to the important stuff like the phonebook, internet, maps, etc. and i have never felt like i got lost in the "unintuitive" menus.

There are also more than enough applications and games available for Symbian, i just hope the developers will start working on touch versions of their apps.]]>Dec 4th 2008 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 5th 2008 1:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/I haven't used S60 myself, so I can't comment on its features or flaws, but I think it would be interesting if Nokia released some Linux-based phones. I own an N810 Internet Tablet, and I'm quite impressed with the good job they did on the OS. While the debate about desktop Linux readiness rages on (with no sign of stopping), I think it's fair to say that a properly designed Linux distro, tailored to a specific mobile device, can be completely viable. And the great thing about that sort of setup is that you can have a consumer friendly device, and still make it hackable. When I pop out my N810 in class to look up a related article on Wikipedia, it's just as simple as doing so on any other OS... but when I want to, I can open a root shell, and do whatever the heck I want. From what I've heard of OpenMoko's offerings, it sounds like they haven't hit that balance yet, so I hope Nokia introduces something of that sort.]]>Dec 5th 2008 3:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/
May see some Android hardware with a switch to homebrew soon after?]]>Dec 5th 2008 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/I have n95 8gb and i love it. I actually like the pc suite and i like the customization of the home screen.
the only problems i have with my n95 is no qwerty and having to rescan for new music once its been added.
the n95 was my first s60 device and i still found it very easy to learn even though its not as intuitive as everyones favorite phone. ]]>Dec 4th 2008 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/ no OS lag whatsoever. Yeah I got rid of my N95 8GB for an E66 for that reason alone. ]]>Dec 4th 2008 6:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 5th 2008 7:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/
Now I realize Windows should never be installed on a smartphone.

I'm really looking forward to something faster, more stable, as expandable and usable and user friendly (win + touchscreen = fail, it's so terribly hard to tap those little crosses!).]]>Dec 4th 2008 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/
Seriously try either new E-series device and you'll see the state of the art in S60. Much more stable and faster than any other S60 I've used and I've owned a good number of S60 phones.]]>Dec 4th 2008 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/
Phone is pretty zippy and there are plenty of RAM to open my apps.

I'm looking forward to try this phone out if it comes with T-Mobile AWS.]]>Dec 5th 2008 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 5th 2008 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n97-hands-on-part-ii-the-reckoning/Dec 4th 2008 5:20PM