http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/ Engadget Comments for Twin-GPU NVIDIA GeForce GTX295 expected at CES http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 2:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703020

if theres a will... theres a way

or in this case if theres a spoiled teenager with mommy and daddys money to burn]]>Dec 11th 2008 2:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 2:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 2:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 2:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/How does plus 80 certified help?]]>Dec 11th 2008 4:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
The more efficient a PSU the less power wasted during the conversion, thus more actual output for the computer to use. You have a 1000 watt PSU that is only 60% efficient the computer will only be able to use 600 watts, 80% efficient - 800 watts. Of course real life circumstances changes things a little bit, but that's the gist. ]]>Dec 11th 2008 6:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
Now if only AMD could learn something about whoopin' Intel again.]]>Dec 11th 2008 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/I'm pretty sure wattage specification refers to the maximum output of the power supply, not the maximum input. So a 1000 watt power supply is indeed able to output 1000 watts. How much it will cost on your electrical bill will depend of the efficiency. ]]>Dec 11th 2008 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
FINALLY, somebody who understands actual usage!

First, in SLI and Crossfire setup's, the 2nd/3rd card draws FAR LESS power than the primary, so even if this card takes 300w, the 2nd card would most likely draw half of that.

Second, Your total ACTUAL output with today's current highest possible computer, a core i7 with dual 4870x2's and 2 raptors ETC is going to be UNDER 700w no problem. Any good 750w Power supply, aka Corsair, Zalman, FSP (best by far), Silverstone, or Thermaltake is going to have no problem running these new cards.

STOP WASTING MONEY ON 1200W PSU"S!!!! not only are the ridiculously expensive but YOU WASTE MONEY BY NOT RUNNING THEM AT 80% efficiency!


Diesel, Over and out]]>Dec 11th 2008 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/That sounds very strange, where did you hear that the 2nd card uses less?]]>Dec 11th 2008 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
You have no idea what you're talking about. A good 1000 watt power supply will generate 1000 watts of power. If it's 50% efficient, it'll draw 2000 watts from your wall. You don't "lose" power through efficiency. ]]>Dec 12th 2008 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/What?
EG; Any 400W 80plus Certified PSU WILL output more power (AMP's per rail) then any 600W+ generic piece of crap.]]>Jan 11th 2009 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 2:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 8:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
Finally Crysis playable on 2560x1600, with all very-high, without running out memory buffer?]]>Dec 11th 2008 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/(without R* patch atm)
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The following hardware was used:

* Asus P5E3 Deluxe (Intel X38)
* Intel Core
2 Quad QX6850 (3 GHz)
* Crucial 2 x 1 Go DDR3 1333 MHz 7-7-7-20
* Maxtor DiamondMax 10 250 Go
* Lector DVD Asus 12x
* Coolermaster RealPower Pro 850W
o Windows Vista
o Catalyst 8.8 beta (8.52.2)
o ForceWare 177.79 beta

Pair that with an i7 instead and I think you'd be rockin']]>Dec 11th 2008 6:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 7:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
Is Pixel density necessarily correlated to screen size?... if anything, is it not inversely proportional... Isn't it more relevant to resolution? Maybe I misunderstood.]]>Dec 11th 2008 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 2:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 3:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
The drop from 65nm to 55nm means it will actually draw less power than 2 x GTX 260s most likely but will deliver the same amount of power in a single slot solution.

The part that interests me is this means you can grab 2 of these and put them in a Core i7 machine using x58.
That config will DESTROY all competitors.]]>Dec 11th 2008 3:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/I'm not sure when "back then" was, but I remember a dual gpu Voodoo 5 card.]]>Dec 11th 2008 8:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
Or if needs be i could just go macgyver and whip one up myself.]]>Dec 11th 2008 3:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
You did the same mistake as Gizmodo and posted that these GTX 260 have 240 cores each, when they actually only have 216 the GTX 280 have 240 cores not the GTX 260. At least read the article..........................]]>Dec 11th 2008 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 3:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 2:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
Of course it doesn't have a heatsink, its a display shot!]]>Dec 11th 2008 3:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 3:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
That's just a video card, without the factory heatsink on it.

A GPU per se, is the processing unit itself, the metallic core (with the word Nvidia written on it) in the center, which incidentally is NOT exposed although it may seem that way.

The GPU in actuality lies beneath the heatspreader (the aforementioned metallic core).]]>Dec 11th 2008 4:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 3:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 5:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 5:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
But yea, their current solution, two PCB's sandwiched together, is lame beyond belief.]]>Dec 11th 2008 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://en.expreview.com/img/2008/12/10/GeForceGTX295_1.jpg

Sandwich design again, oh noes...]]>Dec 11th 2008 3:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
It seems that ATI's solution with direct connection between GPUs really caught nVidia off guard...

Though few games scale well, I would have prefered something like 4 x gf8000 cores on the same board wired over fast local bus. For normal office/etc tasks, single 8800 is much much more than sufficient and rest can sleep to save power. For games, all four can kick in and do some fast rendering.

Sadly, atm even 4870x2 still doesn't implement proper power saving.]]>Dec 11th 2008 7:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 3:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 3:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
And sadly, I have to inform you, that rendering quality of ATI cards of late also went down - right to level of nVidia rendering.

Fact: ATI can't compete with nVidia on quality, because most gamers are bought by "FPS" count and generally turn down quality to get above 40fps.]]>Dec 11th 2008 7:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/Dec 11th 2008 3:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/twin-gpu-nvidia-geforce-gtx295-expected-at-ces/
Go to the Read link, right click on the picture and say View Image (Assuming FireFox)
The picture name says it all
http://en.expreview.com/img/2008/12/09/zotac_260+_55_01.jpg

That is a 260+ which is a single GPU Card and is nothing but a die shrink to the existing GTX260 216 cards.]]>Dec 11th 2008 3:33AM