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"Sir... There's a problem. We received 97,729,361 votes... and we only have a population of 1,315,912."]]>Dec 13th 2008 2:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
Thank you me & Gov. Rod Blagojevich will be providing entertainment all weekend.]]>Dec 13th 2008 2:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 2:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
Cold War jokes are so old, making them is itself a joke.]]>Dec 13th 2008 3:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
all you gotta do is have a competent voter registration system.

The way I see it, to vote by cellphone, you should have 3 codes.

#1 Your SS or identification number
#2 a number mailed to you by voter registrar
#3 your own personal pin number.

You might be able to fake two of these but all three? Unlikely.


Alot of people don't understand the voting process, and I noticed when Obama was running, they tried to make it took like ACORN was helping him get fake votes. No...what really happened was people on the streets who were being paid to find and register voters were making up fake names just to get their check. Those fake names still had to go through the registration process before being validated. Those fake names would in actuality, never make it to the voting booth.

I want to see cellular voting because I want to increase participation in the election process. The way I see it, if 90% of all Iraqi's could brave I.E.D's and militias to go vote, More than 185 million out of 300 million Americans should be able to do so to.]]>Dec 13th 2008 8:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 2:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 3:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 2:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 3:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
...if the system's called VOTR or something Motorola-esquely vowel-deficient, you can be sure it's a conspiracy.]]>Dec 13th 2008 3:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 5:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/]]>Dec 13th 2008 2:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 2:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 3:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.eesti.ee/eng/), car registry, tax office etc.]]>Dec 13th 2008 5:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 2:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 3:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/-They can yell "first"!

Nolimitanggere, surely your comment was the next logical step.

]]>Dec 13th 2008 3:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 2:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
HOOKED ON PHONICS much?

(Also, don't take this personally. I see being up at this hour makes me an internet bitch. Mah' bad.)]]>Dec 13th 2008 3:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/So im going to have to constantly go get my phone checked...
I prefer online voting.. that can be pretty secure..]]>Dec 13th 2008 2:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
I live in Canada and every polling station is standardized and every ballot is cast on paper with a circle filled in via pencil. Every ballot is hand-counted (I've participated in this), with the counting supervised by scrutineers from parties in order to reduce the chance of fraud.

Meanwhile, in America there are constantly reports coming out about the ineffectiveness and susceptibility of voting machines. Keep it simple.]]>Dec 13th 2008 2:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
Nah, not going to stop me.

SCENE: Canadian polling place
ENTER 40 something bearded man wearing denim jeans, cutoff denim shirt, denim vest.
APPROACH Other 40 something bearded man, denim jeans, flannel top.
RON: "Hey Earl, you hear about this new electronic votin'?"
EARL: "Yuppers Ron, lookin forward to seein the fancy new thingamajig."
RON ENTERS VOTING BOOTH. RETURNS IMMEDIATELY. ENTERS NEXT BOOTH. AGAIN RETURNS, ENTERS FINAL BOOTH. RETURNS.
RON: "Well Earl, looks like we'll have to go to a different polling place. All the machines already been voted on"
EARL ENTERS BOOTH, RETURNS
EARL: "Darnitall, shoulda been here earlier."
REVEAL VOTING MACHINE, TWO NAMES ON TICKET, ONE CIRCLE FILLED IN BY #2 PENCIL
]]>Dec 13th 2008 3:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 3:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
Also, Spartacus, that was wholly unfunny. You've shamed our country. Please hand over your internet.

(Spartacus, I'm just bitchin' around here; don't take this personally....but I do require your internet. I understand completely if you're unable to respond.)]]>Dec 13th 2008 3:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
redneck's on welfare and more inbred]]>Dec 13th 2008 3:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
Hand counting is unduly long and error-prone. Yes, it's scrutinized, but there may still be errors. An electronic system could tally votes instantly and if done as well as Amazon or eBay, wouldn't introduce errors or be prone to hacking.

Just comission Microsoft, Apple, IBM or HP to do it. Not some bedroom startup. Experience is just as important as price. In fact, if your little startup makes a bunch of machines that can be hacked by a monkey, experience is the most important factor.]]>Dec 13th 2008 3:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
You must be kidding me or working in these related companies. I sure hope blog comments are not taken seriously. Although using the Bedrooms to make love and human startups is fun.]]>Dec 13th 2008 10:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 5:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
.....I'M NOT YOUR FRIEND GUY!!!!!!!

(fuck canada)]]>Dec 13th 2008 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
For the record I've been to Canada a couple dozen times. Montreal and Vancouver are both awesome, blah blah blah... the thing about jokes is they work better with negative stereotypes. A joke that starts with 2 cool Canadians standing around isn't going to end up funny. Apparently neither were the two stereotypical Canadians, but at least they had potential.]]>Dec 13th 2008 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Obama/Biden

Autocorrect:
McCain/Palin

Now sending.

Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

/possible transcript for a crappy movie

It could change the world.]]>Dec 13th 2008 3:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
It's...it's...it's....a C O N S P I R A C Y.

*dramatic music*

And I, for one, welcome the Obama/Biden v. McCain/Palin election runoff in ESTONIA.]]>Dec 13th 2008 3:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
THIS FILM TAKES PLACE WITHIN THE UNITED STATES.

Happy now?]]>Dec 13th 2008 3:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
Probably moving there for tax reasons. Heh, that'd be ironic.]]>Dec 13th 2008 4:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 4:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 4:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
No offense, but referring to all AT&T handsets is unacceptable generalization.]]>Dec 13th 2008 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
http://government.zdnet.com/?p=4116'

considering they were already giving the guy free service what's a little phone vote rigging gonna hurt?]]>Dec 17th 2008 1:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.id.ee/?lang=en
You know, it's easy to innovate if the population is so little.]]>Dec 13th 2008 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 4:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
But in seriousness, I would love to see a much more simple method of voting implemented in our country. Especially for those of us that live overseas.

]]>Dec 13th 2008 5:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 5:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/
That, and there would be some serious protest from people who feel that this type of voting would create an uneven field, where an advantage of convenience is given to those who can afford cell phones.]]>Dec 14th 2008 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 7:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 8:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/Dec 13th 2008 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/estonia-to-allow-citizens-to-vote-via-cellphone-by-2011/(original quote by RamboAmadeus)]]>Dec 13th 2008 9:27AM