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If I was 3 again that would be the toy for me...]]>Dec 17th 2008 12:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 12:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 7:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Please cover more dj gadgets

Thanks!]]>Dec 17th 2008 12:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 12:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/

Professional
Fusion Fuzo]]>Dec 17th 2008 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
You are redundent.

jon]]>Dec 17th 2008 1:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 1:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/*redundant*]]>Dec 17th 2008 1:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
this deck connects to any number of DJ softwares out there. vDJ, torq serato and the numerous other ones based off of those with a branded skin.

it amazes me with such confidence that you made such a bold statement. you good sir, are completely and utterly wrong. apart from the fact that both beatmania and this deck involve music, they have nothing in common. you might as well say a car is a rip off of beatmania because a car has a stereo!

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It's not Vestax but good build quality and good converters are what to expect from Hercules.]]>Dec 17th 2008 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 1:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
this one will. i got 2 dollars that says so.]]>Dec 17th 2008 1:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 1:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/

this is the sole reason i still buy music and haven't turned into a pirate: you can't record your own vinyls, unless of course you have a phonograph and lathe to carve in the music into pvc and i don't think many people have those]]>Dec 17th 2008 2:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/And you won't have to buy pricey vinyls]]>Dec 17th 2008 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
and of course, there is then lag that is naturally brought on from a timecoded vinyl and the processing of the sound through the computer.

I'm all for new technology and i have found some that work very well for me.

but just like people who like to play acoustic guitar over electric, there is something about the original that you can't shake off. like people who drive antique automobiles, sure the newer automobiles have tons more features, but there is still something about the vintage]]>Dec 17th 2008 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
This reeks of a rebadge. Their last controllers were gash, I have no doubts this one will be too.
Better off grabbing a Behringer BCR2000 for 100 quid. 32 twisty turny ones to program as you like.

I'm sorry, but the blog poster is wrong. No 'DJ' in their right mind would be looking at this. It's to get the attention of people who WANT to be DJ's.]]>Dec 17th 2008 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
Technics 12xx for analog
Pioneer CDJ-1000's for digital

Love vinyl? Try Serato. But come ON people, this is fucking bar mitzvah and wedding reception bullshit. The only reason anyone would want this is so they can pretend to mix music, can't afford an ACTUAL setup and vinyl or CD's, or are too lazy to carry around a record crate. REAL DJ's know this.]]>Dec 17th 2008 5:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
Besides that, this isn't made for playing at huge gigs, it's for fun parties at home and to start learning to DJ. No need to spend too much money on that.]]>Dec 17th 2008 8:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
1 - I got a pair of Tech 12's off of Ebay for $450 shipped, a mixer for $100, and starter Stanton needles for $60. Total invested, $560. Not close to even ONE thousand, let alone thousands in the plural sense. I'm no idiot, and I started learning on setups that friends had. When I wanted my own tables, I got them; and I was not about to waste money.
2 - Although a good DJ CAN mix on anything, most probably WON'T mix on something as ridiculous as this. Put seasoned cats in front of one of these, and they will leave your venue.
3 - I can finally agree with you, yes it's for people learning, or throwing small parties. But devices like these are always lame because learning to DJ usually goes one of two ways. You either buy this, learn to spin and graduate to more mainstream equips because that's what 99% of clubs worth a shit have thus wasting the $300; or you spend the $300 and don't get into it and have also wasted the money. You can always hock it back to eBay and recoup your losses, but by the time all that happens, my initial point was already proven.]]>Dec 17th 2008 8:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
You are an annoying pompous twit who doesn't understand the place this product has in the consumer space.

I hope that helps]]>Dec 17th 2008 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
Fact is traktor scratch pro is growing more popular now, outselling any other dj software, and lets you do a lot more than the conventional tables/cdjs.

You get 4 simultaneous inputs + you can use control cds or vinyl (tables/cdjs) + midi support. Yes, meaning that your wedding reception bullshit contraption pictured above has plenty of knobs, sliders, and buttons to be a nice midi addition to traktor.

Oh even Serato has announced a partnership with Ableton Live to FINALLY support midi input.


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Who the hell are blank and jones?Nothing comes up on beatport when i search them so Im gonna disregard your comment.]]>Dec 17th 2008 11:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 6:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 7:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
fyi, a real DJ kicks the ass of any computer.]]>Dec 17th 2008 7:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
Ridiculous.]]>Dec 17th 2008 8:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/It´s beautifully crafted and comes with a carring bag.
It´s sold throught M-Audio vendors.]]>Dec 17th 2008 7:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
I cannot say enough good things about it! It a great mixer, great build quality and theres a lovely sound out of it. Only downside to the Steel version is that there is no soundcard inbuilt to the mixer. This means you need to splash out for an extra soundcard if you want to hook decks up to it aswell. While the Steel is a great mixer, the price really isn't justified when you can get the same mixer with an inbuilt soundcard for the same price.]]>Dec 17th 2008 8:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/i run club nights in manchester uk
i'm always interested in new ways of djing (that multitouch turntable setup for instance was pretty novel)
but this type of kit is for bedrooms, conferences and (maybe) rock clubs only.

it looks well made, but why this device got covered by engadget at all is beyond me
There's heaps of digital music gear coming onto the scene all the time, and there's been news from jazzmutant's camp a couple of times this year which engadget hasn't shown any interest in

why this product?
it's just a standard piece of kit which hardly anyone would use or want.
why, why oh why???]]>Dec 17th 2008 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
^_^]]>Dec 17th 2008 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
Do you really think I've never USED one of these, or contemplated getting one while I was in my learning phase? Of course I did! Turntables are expensive, and for someone who doesn't know how far they want to go in DJing, they look very attractive. But per the advice of several friends who spin, I stayed away from it, and learned on their decks. And you know what? After a while I discovered exactly why they gave me that advice. Because when you reach that point where you KNOW you wish to DJ, and persue playing in clubs, and doing the whole circuit, you realize 99% of the clubs have the Tech 12k's or CDJ 1k's. So guess what? You need to learn all over again. That's no fun, especially when you don't have a laptop to back you up while spinning vinyl!

Tech 12k's and CDJ's are tried and tested. Someone didn't just find them clever and made up some bullshit standard.]]>Dec 17th 2008 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
I have NO experience. Im talking like the most experience i have is downloading a demo of DJ1800 on my mac. I dont know how far I want to go into DJ-ing. I do know it will take time to learn and it will be more of a hobby for right now in the short term...i.e. house party w friends.

So my question is, Why should/do I stay away from things like this? or is this not so bad to learn with? I mean this stuff is expensive and Ive looked for Techs on ebay did not find anything close to what you bought your set up with. What about the NS7 from Numark?

I know its more of a classic "profession" to have tables and to crate dig, and i guess somewhat acceptable to use Serato, but Im not so sure I will have the time or money for vinyls and crate digging.

Any reccomendations or tips or websites you use would be great. Thanks.

Oh and let these haters hate. ]]>Dec 17th 2008 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
if you have no intention of going anywhere with DJing, just want to have some fun with your music. this is a good (albeit, expensive) way to get that accomplished.

I will say though, that your money is better spent on quality software and a virtual vinyl setup from someone like numark or stanton. you need a usb equipped mixer and a pair of tables or a cd player or two but if you wanna fool around and then realize maybe this is something you wanna do, this is the best course of action.

my personal favorite is numark virtual vinyl, but it is more costly and you have to provide your own tables. for a beginner, a stanton dj bundle from musicians friend will run you about 200 bucks and get you started, then all you need to add is a USB based sound card that'll sync up with whatever software you decide to use (I use Virtual DJ, but Traktor and Serato have good setups too)]]>Dec 17th 2008 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/
You speak about tools like this limiting your ability to 'perform' as a dj.

How on earth is having a plethora of midi triggers and knobs anything but expanding what can be done with a live performance? Something like this is far more expansive than two audio sources and a mixer.

I think you may be to deeply seated in DJ culture that you're forgetting just what can be done with technology, beyond beatmatching and EQ kill switches.]]>Dec 17th 2008 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/17/hercules-introduces-dj-control-steel-mixing-deck/Dec 17th 2008 2:30PM