http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/ Engadget Comments for NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 gets (mostly) official http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/
Could it possibly be any more obvious? He's playing with 32xS-AA/32:1 AF, like any self-respecting gamer nowadays! Geesh...]]>Dec 18th 2008 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Simple, he also wants to heat his house at the same time.]]>Dec 18th 2008 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/
But yeah, I do have Crysis and Farcry 2. I never play them though. My XBox has been getting a workout.]]>Dec 18th 2008 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/
Mine's never scratched a disc. Just in case maybe you were thinking every 360 does nothing but scratch discs and flash red lights--most of them just run games. And they do it particularly well.]]>Dec 18th 2008 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/er... I mean playing games, not scratching discs.]]>Dec 18th 2008 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/
I just replaced one of my client's home PCs with a much much faster gaming rig and what he commented on most wasn't how clean or fast the graphics were but how quiet the system is compared to his old system. There are many fine GPU coolers on the market - how hard would it be for ATI and nVidia to find a vendor, and make a discount deal with them. The coolers could be further refined, the video card manufacturer would probably get rave reviews leading to more sales and the end user gets a significantly improved card. I'm having a hard time seeing the downside.]]>Dec 18th 2008 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/
Ever heard of the term "reference cooler"?]]>Dec 18th 2008 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/I have, but I have also heard of "waterblock" and I like that term better....gotta ring to it.]]>Dec 18th 2008 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/
If the reference cooler is shit, I think you can very well go and complain to AMD or NVIDIA. Card manufacturers often use the reference cooler on the least expensive rendition of a card (Sapphire offered a X1950Pro with reference and a X1950Pro Ultimate with Zalman for instance) because it keeps the cost down. Even if they used another low-end cooler type, it would increase the overall cost and in quite some cases pretty much cancel out the saving between the budget/normal and the more polished model, because they would still have to design it themselves or at least separately order it. So they don't have much of a choice. AMD/Nvidia have.
Not everyone wants to shell out $30+ for an oh-so-great custom cooler (which are sometimes quite bad for their price actually).
Sometimes, the non-reference cards have slightly better specs too, increasing the margin even more.
And yes, there have been some rather high quality reference coolers (on some of the high-end models of the GeForce 7 series for instance), so I don't see how it can't be possible for AMD/NVIDIA to ship something halfway decent with their cards. Of course, this is more relevant to the budget and casual class and it certainly doesn't matter that much with the high-end models when it comes to upcharge. But then again, it wouldn't be too much of a deal to ship these ~$500 cards with, let's say, ~$30 coolers instead of ~$15 coolers, now wouldn't it?]]>Dec 18th 2008 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/please dont break my balls :(]]>Dec 18th 2008 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/(L.M.L.Y.P)]]>Dec 18th 2008 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/
Yeah, when DirectX 10 just got released, it seemed that the graphics cards were the high priced component of the day. Now, with the Core i7, it looks like the motherboards are getting that premium.

I guess the best advice that I've heard is: if your system plays what you want it to play, there's no point in upgrading at the moment.]]>Dec 18th 2008 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/
Your new huh?]]>Dec 18th 2008 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Nope, I don't think they are.

But what is new is I heard that somebody took 2 GTX295s in Quad SLI with a i7 965 OC'd to 5.4Ghz and they were almost able to run GTAIV at 15fps.....as long as there weren't moving.]]>Dec 18th 2008 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/ assuming that it actually manages to meet (or even beat) the 4870 in terms of price.

I would bet my buck on nVidia actually setting same or slightly higher price than of 4870x2.

ATI already pushed prices down, I doubt nVidia would try to push price even lower.

Considering their actual troubles and niche market the card is targeted for, I guess they would put slightly higher price than 4870x2. But just slightly as to not to offset advantages of the card.]]>Dec 18th 2008 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/
Otherwise it would be interesting to hear anything on that topic. I'm planning to build new system by end of the winter and I wanted to have some x2 card in it...]]>Dec 18th 2008 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Never thought GFX cards would be the driving force for the transition to 64 bit.

(could be that the 1,792 is divided by 2 due to SLI)]]>Dec 18th 2008 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/]]>Dec 18th 2008 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/VRAM does get subtracted of the total (mind that word) addressable virtual memory. This has nothing to do with paging or shared video memory.
How else would a program communicate with your GFX card.
So you'd have:

--------------------- 0GB
| physical memory addresses
| ... even more..
| ...
|---------------------- ~3 GB
| memory addresses mapped to your hardware, like
| hdd controller, usb controller GFX card. and so on
|
-----------------------4GB
]]>Dec 18th 2008 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/død ved kølle]]>Dec 18th 2008 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/Dec 18th 2008 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/18/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-gets-mostly-official/
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