http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/ Engadget Comments for AMD Phenom II processor bought, benchmarked, coveted http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 9:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/
With that said, buy AMD! Support them to keep Intel on their toes.]]>Dec 23rd 2008 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 9:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/
The AMD proc seems very in-line with core i7 performance. The i7 in that link scored ~500 points more at 200mhz higher stock speed. Granted, it looks like the i7 oc'd better than the phenom, but I think some of you are forgetting how much Intel charges for it's Extreme line...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115200]]>Dec 23rd 2008 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/

Plus you can't compare 3DMark Scores directly. Any minor variations like RAM Speed, OS choice, even a polished BIOS, might result in big differences in conclusions.]]>Dec 23rd 2008 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 29th 2008 10:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/
I was simply stating that yes, indeed, liquid nitrogen is available 'to the masses'... ]]>Dec 23rd 2008 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/
Besides, we don't even know which processors are being compared. Is the i7 they are talking about the $300 or the $1200 one? And for that matter, is this the Top end of the AMD Phenom II? For all we know at this point, this could be the low end, value model. It is just too early to start bashing AMD for no reason.]]>Dec 26th 2008 2:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/
1. Intel's Core i7 Extreme costs OVER a grand. These are going to launch at under $300. Additionally, you should be able to use these CPUs on existing sub-$100 mainboards, and the cheapest i7 board costs over $300. That's 83% of the performance for ~25% of the price. I'm not good at math, but even I can do that.
2. As was stated, these are the DDR2 versions of the chip, we don't know the numbers on the DDR3 versions that would be a more equivalent match to the core i7 chips.]]>Dec 23rd 2008 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Yes, you are correct that the entry Core i7 920 is $300 but it is still only usable on X58 chipset motherboards which START at $290, and don't forget that the X58 motherboards run on TRIPLE channel DDR3 memory which range around $180-$200. So right there in its most basic form, the start of a Core i7 will run you nearly 800 bucks, almost double that if you use the 965 like in the article. We haven't even added Hard Drives, Graphics Cards, a Power Supply, a Case, better CPU cooling, etc. The Core i7 is a great CPU, it is. But many people out there with Current AMD systems really have in the Phenom II an excellent way to upgrade if they have AM2 motherboards now, and if you don't then starting a new AMD system from scratch is comparably much much cheaper than starting a spankin new Core i7 system.]]>Dec 23rd 2008 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/
I'm an AMD guy, mainly because I like the words "efficiency" and "value". Love the 45W X2 parts. If you are looking at $500+ for the mobo+CPU though, Intel is in a much better position to make you an "offer you can't refuse".]]>Dec 23rd 2008 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/
While it is expensive, if you are on Intel right now, with 775, you would have to get a new mobo to switch to AMD anyway. Why wouldn't you then just buy X58 and i7, knowing it costs about the same, and with an i7 you get a faster chip.

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http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=618853]]>Dec 23rd 2008 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/
That has been well publicised already, so all the snotty comments about meeting deadlines, etc. may be stuffed well up the back where they belong.

As others have mentioned, comparing this to an Intel i7 Extreme is retarded.
A $275 chip versus a $800 chip? Yeah, that makes sense..

Then comparing a CPU that needs a $150 to $200 motherboard versus one that needs a $450 motherboard?

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X58 boards can be had for $280-300. However, I have not seen a X965 going for $800. $1000 seems be be a bit closer to the going rate.]]>Dec 23rd 2008 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/23/amd-phenom-ii-processor-bought-benchmarked-coveted/Dec 23rd 2008 1:16PM