http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/ Engadget Comments for Intel put the kibosh on anti-Ion hubbub, welcomes standalone Atom sales http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
But I think an Intel/nVidia merger would work.

Fact: Intel graphics suck.
Fact: nVidia is the de-facto graphics leader
Fact: Intel has very good QC and Fab processes
Fact: nVidia NEEDS very good QC and Fab processes

To me, that's a match made in heaven. Now all they need is lower prices!!!!]]>Dec 25th 2008 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
you know nivda still makes chipsets for AMD right?
just look on newegg...

so sli is still avilaable to the latest AMD prossers]]>Dec 25th 2008 9:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 10:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
The only thing that makes VIA setups unattractive is that their integrated graphics are even worse than Intels.

Give me a VIA board with integrated nVidia graphics and i'll make a damn mess in my pants.]]>Dec 25th 2008 11:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 26th 2008 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
We need a third company to shake things up. Maybe Microsoft can team up with someone to make things happen.]]>Dec 25th 2008 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 9:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
well those are the only other companys that make laptop videocards
so its gunna have to be one of them...

now if your talking about for desktops then that company would be
matroix but thay make simmaler cards to the quotro series
so thay wouldent really do you any good...

so your still stuck with SIS and VIA
ide go with SIS bc thay were the first cheep $50 or less dx 10.1 glass supporting videocard]]>Dec 25th 2008 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
I needed a good laugh- thank you.]]>Dec 25th 2008 11:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
That would be stupid and hardly unlikely that Microsoft would get into Intel's affairs.
But lets say these OS does have a poison pill that stops certain hardware (Intel) from working with their OS:

Apple killing Intel support would cause Intel to loose its glitter being connected to a high profile product and a drop in its stock price.

Window killing Intel support would cause people to laugh at Window but cause Intel into (near) bankruptcy.]]>Dec 26th 2008 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 8:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
about the news, good.]]>Dec 25th 2008 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Whats the worse that can happen if the two work together? Make more money? expand the Netbook market? Not like its a replacement GPU, or their stealing your sales. Just like Apple. If OSX wasnt limited to apple machines they would have made a lot more money....]]>Dec 25th 2008 8:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 9:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
Intel does not own Nvidia. Maybe some shares of Nvidia, but not Nvidia outright. Nothing is wrong if Intel and Nvidia work together to make a better netbook from our standpoint. Their standpoint is, well, basic Nvidia graphics won't expand the market much, so why not make more money off each netbook by forcing everyone to user our graphics chip, because yes, it is a replacement GPU. Thankfully, Intel is under too much scrutiny for that to be truly viable these days. That and Nvidia has enough bucks to keep them in line in this case.

Apple makes profit off hardware, not OSX. Therefore selling OS X for all PCs would not net them any profit. In fact, it would probably lose them money. Next time you post, lay off the crack. ]]>Dec 25th 2008 9:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 26th 2008 12:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
/Facepalm

I worry for the human race with idiots like these.]]>Dec 26th 2008 5:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 26th 2008 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 8:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 9:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 10:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 8:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 9:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 9:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 9:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 25th 2008 10:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Looks like some sort of pseudo-Pico-ITX thing-a-ma-jig.]]>Dec 26th 2008 2:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Now of course you can go and buy the standalone Atom, not the package with chipset. Only problem is that the price of the standalone Atom is inflated (to make the package more attractive), and going with an alternative chipset is simply not competitive.

Now, I'm not saying that this is the way Intel's handling the issue, but the information that "of course we are selling Atom standalone" doesn't mean anything.]]>Dec 26th 2008 1:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
Intel counts the chipset's into your quota allocation. Those that buy just the Atom will get a lower allocation of chips than those that buy the Atom with chipset.

Is this anti-Ion or just being practical about distribution of a limited resource?]]>Dec 26th 2008 7:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
I always wanted a netbook with decent graphics performance. Intel, swallow your pride and admit your graphics chipsets are not worthy!]]>Dec 26th 2008 1:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
Intel HAS to say that it isn't blocking NVIDIA from putting Atom into its chipset.

If Intel bundles in a way which prohibits "fair competition" I think they would get into trouble with the law.
They are in the middle of an anti-trust lawsuit to begin with.

And I agree - I am waiting for a few tier 1 guys to launch some notebooks (netbooks?) with ION to really believe intel.]]>Dec 26th 2008 3:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
Ion = Atom + NVIDIA Chipset

saying Ion+Atom is kinda redundant. Also - inaccurate.]]>Dec 26th 2008 4:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/Dec 26th 2008 6:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/intel-put-the-kibosh-on-anti-ion-hubbub-welcomes-standalone-ato/
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220385
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