http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/ Engadget Comments for PlayStation 3 used to hack SSL, Xbox used to play Boogie Bunnies http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
If not, I think you're safe! *ba-dum pshhhh*

Tip your waitress!]]>Dec 30th 2008 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 8:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 10:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
They (Third Reich & its ally) actually invaded other countries, Iraq did not.
At least half of the international community allied with U.S. (even Soviet Union), this is not true either about Iraq.

Let's face it. The Iraq war is not popular and it cannot have support as U.S. had in WWII]]>Dec 31st 2008 8:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 11:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
but some asshole on engadget would reply "its just you" and get a Highest Ranked.

Therefore I will make a Declaritive statement.

THE PS3 IS GOOD AT EVERYTHING EXCEPT GAMING.]]>Dec 30th 2008 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
The US aren't in Europe for anyone else but themselves, it allows you to launch fighters/bombers during conflicts without the need of a carrier it also allowed (possibly still does) the storage of nukes during the cold war. It also allows you to ship people out to countries haven't banned torture in order to sidestep your own laws.

There are an awful lot of people who are greatful for the US's entry into WW II - albeit a late entry - but that does not excuse anything and everything the US does that is wrong. This Bush is not representative of your other presidents at all - this Bush is a dufus.]]>Dec 31st 2008 5:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
The difference is, none of these European countries WANT the U.S. to leave. These military installations with thousands of soldiers and families have become a large part of their economies. A lot of towns in Germany would turn into dust-bowls if the U.S. military pulled out. Bush has actually THREATENED to pull our troops out of Europe when he doesn't get his way.]]>Dec 31st 2008 9:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 31st 2008 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 31st 2008 7:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
+1 from me.]]>Dec 30th 2008 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 31st 2008 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 31st 2008 8:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
....but ridiculously impressive

the knowledge of my sweet generation, we kick ass. :-)]]>Dec 30th 2008 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 6:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
That fact that you take offense to my silly little statement shows us who the tool is...]]>Dec 30th 2008 6:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 31st 2008 12:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
Rich group of hackers maybe...]]>Dec 30th 2008 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
Yeah. I mean, it's not like anyone is using them for gaming. They have to do something with them.]]>Dec 30th 2008 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 8:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
So how INFLATED is that number sold due to these "PS3 Super Computers"


Try again Sony... Its not a game console its an F'in PC...]]>Dec 30th 2008 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 31st 2008 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
Which one? TU Eindhoven?]]>Dec 31st 2008 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
The other thing I'm wondering about though is how many of the PS3s that are sold each week are being used for projects such as this? This is certainly not the first time I've heard of PS3s used to do massive computing projects, so... any guesses as to the percentage of PS3s sold that are being used for their computing power and not for their gaming potential? I'm thinking 5%...]]>Dec 30th 2008 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/Dec 30th 2008 6:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
as those people surely dont go to 50 or so stores to pick up 2-4 PS3s then its not included in the NPD numbers.......]]>Dec 30th 2008 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/
If i am ever obscenely rich I am buying a clsuter of PS3s to fold@home till i cure all those diseases. ]]>Dec 30th 2008 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/30/hackers-playstation-3-make-ssl-much-less-secure/"the group managed to create a rogue Certification Authority (CA) which allows them to create their own SSL certificates"

Huh? It takes virtually no effort to create your own CA and even less to create your own SSL cert - did you mean to say that they recreated one of the valid standard CA's with their own info and then generated ssl certs from that?

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Our attack scenario basically is as follows. We request a legitimate website certificate from a commercial Certification Authority trusted by all common browsers. Since the request is legitimate, the CA signs our certificate and returns it to us. We have picked a CA that uses the MD5 hash function to generate the signature of the certificate, which is important because our certificate request has been crafted to result in an MD5 collision with a second certificate. This second certificate is not a website certificate, but an intermediary CA certificate that can be used to sign arbitrary other website certificates we want to issue. Since the MD5 hashes of both the legitimate and the rogue certificates are the same, the digital signature obtained from the commercial CA can simply be copied into our rogue CA certificate and it will remain valid.

So basically, they got a regular website certificate. But by using the PS3s they created a certificate that can sign other certificates (the regular certificate is not allowed to do this!), and because the created certificate and the regular certificate have the same hash it is accepted. They need the PS3s to calculate a certificate that would have the same MD5 hash.]]>Dec 31st 2008 2:24PM