http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/ Engadget Comments for Y2K8 Zune quirk really a Freescale bug? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 2:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 2:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 2:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/it's just dumb names people are trying to make up, Y28 is even stupider than Z2K which I heard earlier
2800 is 2K8H]]>Jan 3rd 2009 2:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 3:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 3:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 6:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
You always do that. You always mess up some mundane detail!]]>Jan 3rd 2009 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
In electronics, 2k8 IS 2800.. But I stand corrected when talking about years :-)]]>Jan 3rd 2009 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 2:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
Once this occurs the only option is to toggle the battery switch (while disconnected from USB and charging) and it just goes back to the same Dec. 31st problem - it locks up on boot-up. Here's the clincher - if I wait a day and let the battery drain out and recharge it, it starts OK. I've figured out this scenario since this is my 2nd day of going through this sick ritual.

In essence my S60 works fine as long as I don't try to sync it. Yuck...]]>Jan 4th 2009 11:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
There is a good fix for the dropped calls at least, unlock -> T-Mobile....]]>Jan 3rd 2009 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 2:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 2:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/No, the article talks some unrelated bs about using the same processor and doesn't mention the shared drivers.

The old news is that it was Freescale's FUBARed driver that caused the problem (it's not Microsoft's code (but still Microsoft's responsibility to QA that code)); the new news is that more devices uses the very same driver.

And since everyone's plugging their blogs, here's my take (with an actual bug fix): http://overooped.com/post/67804305/the-code-that-allegedly-broke-the-zune]]>Jan 3rd 2009 9:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 4th 2009 12:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 2:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 8:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/In fact there were some leaked shots of development Gigabeats that became the 4/8 and 80 Zunes, again cutting some nice features]]>Jan 3rd 2009 2:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 9:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
ORIGINYEAR = 1980 (as stated in the code).

The loop is designed to find out what the current year is by dividing the number of days since ORIGINYEAR to find the current year.

Basically, the loop runs through and subtracts 365 from the number of days and increments years by 1 if the current year is not a leap year and subtracts 366 from the number of days (and yes, increments years by 1) if the current year IS a leap year.

On 2008, it was supposed to subtract 366 from 367 (and add 1 to years total, which was 2008) to get day 1 of 2009. However, the loop didn't properly handle the case where days = 366, so an infinite loop was the result, hence the issue.

This is basically the content for my post tomorrow on the issue.]]>Jan 3rd 2009 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
j/k im not That asshole.

...btw, cant wait until next leap year for the same rigmarole ]]>Jan 3rd 2009 2:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
Could be...]]>Jan 3rd 2009 3:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 4th 2009 12:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
So of course they have similar problems.

MS is generally not great at hardware (mice and keyboards excepted), so it's probably a good thing that MS let Toshiba design the whole thing.]]>Jan 3rd 2009 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
Not really. In Engadget's article, they said other Toshiba players were messed up with the bug.

Also, how can you explain the Zune 30GBs all going out, but not the Zune 4's, 8's, 16's, 80's, and 120's? All the other other Zunes, after the Zune 30, were built through Flextronics, not Toshiba.

So if you ask me, I wouldn't be recommending Toshiba to make any PMPs for anyone.]]>Jan 3rd 2009 3:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
Pretty much. It doesn't absolve MS from lack of user testing but it's no different from the nVidia GPU failures experienced by Macs.

Apart from the coverage obviously.]]>Jan 3rd 2009 5:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
Gah!]]>Jan 3rd 2009 5:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
The Macbook problem, well, lets not get into that. It was caused by a third party anyway. Shh.]]>Jan 3rd 2009 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
Have you used the Microsoft Racing Wheel?]]>Jan 3rd 2009 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 3:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
No. As a software company Microsoft should be held to a high standard about this kind of thing.

The contributors you mentioned simply hold Microsoft to a higher standard in software than they hold Apple in hardware.]]>Jan 3rd 2009 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 4:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 4:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 5:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
"And by 'dope' I mean the street colloquialism that suggests that you are a person of enviable qualities - not that you're an idiot, ahem"]]>Jan 4th 2009 12:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
Yep, I regret every Apple product I have purchased.]]>Jan 3rd 2009 4:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
How come trolls etc. never use -roper punctuation or grammar? AAAAAAAAARGGGGGHHH! That annoys me more than whatever they're trying to say...]]>Jan 3rd 2009 5:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/plus rockbox also adds msc usb support (no more mtp yay!) with its usb stack and fm recording.
The only problem is we don't have a way to recover the original firmware after install that is user friendly (yet) only way is to take the drive out and put it in an ipod video to read the filesystem before install.]]>Jan 3rd 2009 4:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 5:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 6:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Y100K
Y1M
Y10M
Y100M
Y1B

Do we see an ongoing problem here?

It's sort of the ultimate I'll do it tomorrow, when you have thousands of years to wait...]]>Jan 3rd 2009 6:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 7:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/Jan 3rd 2009 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
ATLANTA -- The new iPod Nano is hot. But one Douglasville man said his old Nano got even hotter -- hot enough to burst into flames.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/14271878/detail.html

An investigation into the safety of the iPod Nano has been ordered after a reported case of one of the popular music players shooting out sparks while recharging.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-531788/Apple-iPod-probe-Nano-shoots-sparks-recharging.html]]>Jan 3rd 2009 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/03/y28-zune-quirk-really-a-freescale-bug/
If Zune's sales ever reach a sufficient level, you'll hear of it having problems like these too.]]>Jan 3rd 2009 12:04PM