http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/1. Blu-Ray
2. Dolby TrueHD
3. DTS-HD MA
4. HDMI
5. DVD
6. 7.1 surround

Plus cost of development for features like:
7. upconversion
8. variable resolutions

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distributed across the U.S.?

If we look at comparable models it seems like this is a really good deal.]]>Jan 7th 2009 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/
You have to go back a ways to find a 7.1 - nay, a 5.1 receiver without a single optical or coax audio input. With all due respect to the analogians, it's time to upgrade your receiver.]]>Jan 7th 2009 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/
Optical or Coax digital inputs don't give you high def lossless audio. You need an HDMI receiver for that which are much newer. So, multichannel analog out benefits even those who have digital inputs.]]>Jan 7th 2009 6:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/
You're really missing the point on the importance of 7.1 analog outputs for many with older high-end electronics lacking HDMI.

Optical and Digital Coax are not capable of transmitting either a bitstream or decoded LPCM stream of DD+, TrueHD, or DTS-MA. The only way to enjoy these codecs is either bitstream or player-decoded LPCM over HDMI to a capable receiver, or player-decoded LPCM over 7.1 analog.

This feature lets people with older high-end receivers and processors enjoy the new lossless and uncompressed audio codecs without having to replace an expensive piece of equipment (likely $500 - $2k for a high-end receiver, $2k - $5k for a pre-processor) just to add HDMI. ]]>Jan 7th 2009 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 7:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/
When that happens, Vizio is bound go lower again. I think by the end of the year or early 2010 you'll see $150 or less full featured BD players.]]>Jan 7th 2009 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/
Geez, don't you guys have a copy editor?]]>Jan 7th 2009 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/
the focus of this posting is about price level versus feature set. what's most relevant and pertinent to further a good discussion here?:

- is this product remarkable (features)? given the other responses here... yes.
- do they have a high-quality product at this price or are the components inferior? anybody?
- what other products in the marketplace will it be competing with? anybody?
- is this a category killer or something that will impact the market in any significant way? given the other responses here... yes. How? I think @ksb434 said it best below.
- is there anything that this posting forgot to mention with regard to the product and it's place in the CE market? I'm sure. I'll leave that to the more educated people here who know more about this stuff than me.
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[disclaimer: this comment is not intended as sarcasm]]]>Jan 7th 2009 5:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/
Maybe you have and you really don't care but i doubt it.]]>Jan 7th 2009 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/
Blu-Ray looks noticeably better on my 720p Sammy DLP than does DirecTV HD channels (which are generally thought of as some of the best). I can only imagine how that gap will widen when I upgrade to a 1080p set.]]>Jan 7th 2009 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/
"The super-slim player will fit in any entertainment cabinet, and is not only compatible with Blu-ray discs and BD-Live content, but it plays standard definition DVD-Video, DVD-R, DVD-RW, CD, audio CD-R and CD-RW, plus MP3 CDs."

Hopefully that means this is a full Profile 2.0 player. Right now, that's the first hurdle BD has to cover for acceptance, if theres a divide in the profile between cheaper players and higher end players it will delay adoption rates as many people (myself included) will probably wait for the 2.0 spec players to drop in price and ignor earlier specs (rightfully so)]]>Jan 7th 2009 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/
2009 will have a price war going on full swing, expect fully featured players at $99 or lower for the next Black Friday.

Now if the studio will follow suit for the price of movies, we can finally mean business here.

P.S: downloadable content? lol. It'll stay (relatively) niche as long as the vast majority of people in the US and the rest of the world will not have access to cheap and easy to setup braodband.
No need of that to just setup a player and a TV (and personally I couldn't care less about BD Live, but a connection possible make updates easy).]]>Jan 7th 2009 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 7th 2009 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/@bull3964,

You have to go back a ways to find a 7.1 - nay, a 5.1 receiver without a single optical or coax audio input. With all due respect to the analogians, it's time to upgrade your receiver.

Do you even understand why he mentioned analog? You cannot get true HD sound from the BD player using any optical connection other than HDMI. So the only other alternative is 5.1/7.1 analog out which will provide the full HD sound. If you connect a BD player via Toslink you will not get HD sound.]]>Jan 9th 2009 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/
It just seems a little high for the average consumer..

Though maybe it will drive more people to use Netflix and others to get their HD fix?

As for me, I'm waiting for LoTR and Star Wars IV-VI to come out on BD, then I guess I will have to take the Blu-ray plunge out of principle regardless of price. :-)]]>Jan 7th 2009 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 8th 2009 4:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 8th 2009 12:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/vizio-jumps-into-the-sub-200-blu-ray-player-ring-with-its-vbr10/Jan 9th 2009 5:32AM