http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/ Engadget Comments for Palm Pre first hands-on with live updates! http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/

As for the pre, welcome back Palm.]]>Jan 8th 2009 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/Jan 8th 2009 4:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/
My major concern is the music playing capability, lest we forget that Apple was piggybacking on the iPod's success in the market and still pretty much has their iTunes ecosystem intact, although the DRM-less music in iTunes might make a big difference here.

My other concern is how Palm is going to compete with the App Store. Those 10,000 apps on the iPhone just aren't going to disappear over night.

But, other than that, bravo Palm, bravo.

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When I referred to the music playing capability, I was talking about more than just the player. I'm talking about the whole ecosystem. What kind of music selections will Palm have available for it or will they rely on a company like Amazon? What about the management software? Will it have an equivalent of iTunes, that is, will it come with software that lets you create playlists, categories, ratings?

Well, I can already see some hardware problems with this phone. In the video above, the lady demonstrating put the web browser in landscape mode, which is cool, but without a landscape keyboard or virtual keyboard, how the heck are you going utilize the accelerometer to it's fullest potential? If you're browsing anything in landscape mode and you decide to type, you'll have to go back to the upright position. That's my first major complaint.

Like I said, I'm bored with the instant adulation that I see on Engadget. There's way too much love at first sight and not enough getting to know you before the marriage.


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Serious buyers are not going to buy it until it is reviewed or tested, also don't underestimate open SDK, easy software development, and using the Pre as a mass storage device, this alone kills competition and sinks it in a pool of blood.

I'm giving up my Omnia as soon as Pre is out. Word.]]>Jan 8th 2009 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/Jan 8th 2009 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/
Instant Fanboyism.


]]>Jan 8th 2009 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/Jan 8th 2009 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/
Everyone is so ready to jump into something headfirst without seeing everything first.



]]>Jan 8th 2009 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/
EASY languages. I have been writing HTML/CSS/Java code since I was twelve. I heard it took Pandora THREE days only to create a pandora app for webOS.

Think of the Pre like the Yahoo Widget engine. The apps will be so easy to create think of them as widgets on the PRE. AWESOME.

So awesome. I am definitely owning a Pre.]]>Jan 8th 2009 9:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/You are correct. No one on Engadget is showing the collective reservation that Apple fans showed for the iPhone. None of the iFans decided to buy the iPhone without trying it first, right? *all hail Steve Jobs*
Nobody thought the iPhone would be anything special, but when it came out everyone who stood in line for one (without even seeing one first) suddenly realized it was awesome, right? *all hail Steve Jobs*
No one talked about how the iPhone was gonna be the greatest phone ever, even before it was fully tested, right? *all hail Steve Jobs*

Get real. You can't blame people for trying to rally support for a device that isn't an iPhone. The iPhone has many good features, but it isn't the only good device out there.

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Like the iPhone or not, I'd have to say that the recent batch of good devices from RiM, Palm, etc probably wouldn't have been as cool had the iPhone not been so successful. Nothing motivates like fear of losing market share...

Competition FTW]]>Jan 8th 2009 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/Jan 8th 2009 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/
so, $59 for 450 minutes and unlimited everything else... no other plan from any other provider can beat that.

]]>Jan 8th 2009 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/You were looking at individual plans which are $70/90/100 for 450/900/Unlimited, I need a family plan which are $130/170/190 for 1500/3000/Unlimited. So apparently Sprint caters to singles more than families and thinks that people talk a whole lot on their cellphones. Granted, I would be the only one using the smartphone, so the $70 plan for me and the $30 plan for basic use for my wife would be the cheapest Sprint could offer for me. In comparison, if I went with AT&T I could get the iPhone data plan for $30 in addition to the $60 family plan and it gives me everything I need. Sprint would cost me a minimum of $100/month plus it would be two bills whereas AT&T would be $90/month in one bill. Something just doesn't make sense.]]>Jan 8th 2009 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/I even said in another post that I am definitely thinking about buying this once it hits Europe.]]>Jan 8th 2009 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/
You have 30 days to return your iPhone without a early termination fee, so it's up to you. Perhaps you can return it, and get by with a prepaid phone until the Pre comes out. Personally, I'm an AT&T BlackBerry user which means I've got a company that gouges me left and right with little charges on my bill, yet offers phenomenal coverage where I live. I've got a phone that I love and would only give up for another BlackBerry like the Bold, but Sprint's less expensive and MUCH less restrictive data plans have convinced me to wait out my contract and consider jumping ship when the time is right.

I will say that if you can get a Premier FAN# on AT&T (i.e. convince them you're a business customer) you'll end up with an entirely different support staff. You'll be able to call customer support at 12:30am with an esoteric data issue and they'll be courteous, helpful and do everything they possibly can to make you a happy customer. Contrast that with their regular consumer support, which stops answering the phone after sundown and when you finally get someone after 20 minutes on hold, they either hang up on you or treat you like shit.

Easiest way to get a Premier FAN# used to be to add a tethering plan to your phone. You can keep the plan forever if you want to, but as long as you've been billed for it once, your account gets converted to business class and stays there even if you cancel the data plan later. That's how I got it on mine a few years ago, though nowadays you may be required to prove you are a business customer by other means.

Sorry that got so long winded; I must have thought I was on slashdot or something.]]>Jan 8th 2009 10:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/Jan 8th 2009 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/Jan 8th 2009 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/Jan 8th 2009 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/Jan 8th 2009 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/Jan 8th 2009 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/Jan 8th 2009 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/
Having said that I'm really hoping that Palm did it this time, because I was a fan way back when (I still have my US Robotics Palm Pilot), and both my wife and I had handsprings, and my wife has a current TX that she actually uses.

finger crossed...
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It sure looks like it is the real deal. Sprint just found it's saving grace. Kudos to Hesse and Sprint for that big win and props to Palm for being loyal to the Sprint Treo faithful with another exclusive. This may actually be the I-phone competitor that gets it done right. Wow....]]>Jan 8th 2009 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/Jan 8th 2009 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/
Good job, Palm! You had the most surprising and encouraging CES presentation so far!]]>Jan 8th 2009 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/Jan 8th 2009 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/Jan 8th 2009 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-hands-on-with-live-updates/Jan 8th 2009 4:48PM