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More info on the cpu, its a beast!]]>Jan 8th 2009 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/

]]>Jan 8th 2009 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/"Memory
8GB of user storage (~7.4GB user available)
USB mass storage support"
http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre/index.html#tab2

No memory extentability listed.

I still want it though :)]]>Jan 8th 2009 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
The hardware isn't there yet. I don't understand the whole gesture thing at the bottom of the phone and the portrait keyboard is going to suck for landscape related work. Other than that, I'm looking forward to some in depth reviews.

This new Palm OS makes Android look like Windows 95.

]]>Jan 8th 2009 6:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARM_Cortex-A8.html

It can be clocked between 600-1000+ MHZ. Similar products you may have heard about also with the ARM Cortex A8 core are the Pandora and Archos 5.]]>Jan 8th 2009 6:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
What crack are you smoking? There are 86 pictures showing all sorts of apps such as Mail, Music, Pictures, and Google Maps. And this is WAY to early to be saying that this will "kill" Android. Your only justification for this is that it is based on Linux, which means absolutely squat. Just because it's based on Linux doesn't give it any advantage at all. Android is just as free and open-source. Adn while this may have fixed some things such as multi-touch (which is coming), we still don't know enough about it to say what its own flaws are.]]>Jan 8th 2009 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
IMO this OS makes Palm a prime takeover target for Microsoft or Nokia. Both are suffering from having a GARBAGE OS that can't compete with the iPhone and won't be able to for a long way to come.

Anyway - looks fantastic so far. The only thing that gives me pause is the use of web technologies for all apps. I mean - that stuff makes for great websites, but AJAX is most certainly not a nice, clean programming environment like I would wish for in a brand new device. ]]>Jan 8th 2009 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.SprintPre.net to chat about it.]]>Jan 9th 2009 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
This is certainly not a bad device, but what a lot of people is missing here is that this is really no different to the iPhone. When you purchase a Palm device you buy into a certain eko system. The device is running their operating system, with their apps. You might as well buy the iPhone since its the industry standard. I.e. you can´t read one review or comment thread without someone mentioning the iPhone, and it has like one million gazillion accessories and apps. Android is a completely different story since it´s a open platform that any number of manufacturers can produce devices for. More manufacturers means more flavours of devices - which could mean more customers and more developers creating applications for it. Just because the G1 isnt your flavour doesnt mean there arent any number of devices in the comming years. With the palm youre stuck with this soap designed awful looking device until Palm decides to release another device.]]>Jan 10th 2009 3:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/There are so many stupid idiotic quirks with MY iPhone that at times make me want to literally chuck it at a wall.
When I want to do things quick and efficiently, I have to wait for long load times.
This PRE is finally what the iPhone SHOULD have been.
Now, there will still be things that the iPhone will be better at, mostly games and media aspects,
but then again, in this Engadget post, it says Palm might release a more display layer, so there is still hope.

In any case, this phone kicks the BB OS' ass when it comes to efficiency and connectivity. Now the only thing BB has is its BIS/BES. It still doesn't do IMAP perfectly, and HTML emails definitely need work. So if this new PRE does these things well, then BB has a hell of a lot of catching up to do. On the other side, the media aspects seem very comparable to the iPhone, and the browser seems even better than the iPhone. One of the reasons I'm keeping my iPhone is because of its media (video and games) capabilities and the browser. If PRE has a better browser, then it will definitely become my next device, replacing my current BB Javelin and iPhone 3G.

It will finally be that one device that does everything well, does phone aspects exceptionally, is efficient for using for work, but still has good media and great browser. It will definitely become my daily device.

Now.. let's just hope that from now until the actual release date, Palm doesn't screw it up. Which it doesn't seem like they will, as they have so much of the phone done right up at this point. I'm routing for you Palm!]]>Jan 11th 2009 6:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
Come on, give us that sweet UTMS lovin'!]]>Jan 8th 2009 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Oh wait - never mind - forgot I no longer have my soul with me (#@#$@#$ damn you iPhone ...).]]>Jan 8th 2009 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 10:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
Still, as first impressions go, it's probably the nicest iPhone to hit the market since the original iPhone. I'll give a 7/10 on the iPhone scale.]]>Jan 8th 2009 8:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 9th 2009 9:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 11th 2009 7:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
But camera isn't important for most people that would want this phone. The tv out is not being present is probably outweighed by the other benefits but would be nice if it was there, not that I use it on my N95, but I'm sure others would.]]>Jan 8th 2009 5:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
The iPhone does have TV-Out functionality, though.]]>Jan 8th 2009 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 6:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
Megapixels are important but they aren't the only factor when it comes to a great picture. The Lens plays a very big part but good lens cost money and take up space hence why most camera phone pictures suck. I have seen shots taken on 2 and 3 megapixel cameras that blow away 5 and 6 megapixel cameras and it was all due to the lens.]]>Jan 8th 2009 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 7:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
Not every device can have every feature ever invented, and Palm kind of has a history of camera suck, and TV-out, for me at least, is a gimmick. Although I love gimmicks, I have to say. :)

Still, fabulously (ahem, sorry) pre-tty device, it is now one of the top contenders for my next phone, depending on its price and whether Palm's new OS can get the huge library of devs and apps of the glorious days gone by, but soon to return (hopefully). Makes me wanna be a Palm fanboy.]]>Jan 8th 2009 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 9th 2009 3:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
i love the multitasking, card feature. if it's anything like how tabs are in safari, that alone makes me want to buy it. it has a sweet interface, and keyboard, which is the only thing stopping me from buying an iphone, and it's on my carrier. plus it has a 3.5 mm headphone jack which the g1 doesn't have. there are no downsides to this phone! with the iphone and g1 there are problems that while ill admit are minor, arent in this phone.

sprint, which i don't really understand why it has such a bad rap. i've never dropped a call. always had reception, and on evdo, the download speed was faster than on my sister's g1! and there's gonna be a WCDMA version!

the spotlight like feature is awesome, and i love synergy. the fact that it takes all info on every social website and puts it all in a list with no duplicates boggles me! the processor is a huge plus, i assume you can have a lot of apps open without having to worry about closing one of them. plus confirmed copy and paste! I've always wanted a phone that is like a computer, where you aren't limited to what the company gives you, and i feel like i can get it with this phone. one of the gripes i had with the iphone, was that there were so many restrictions on what you could do with it. you couldn't change at all how the ui looked, and you were pretty much stuck with what apple gave you. with the centro i changed everything about it to bring the interface out of 1990, but after a while, because development has stopped for palm, i just hit a wall. i hit a wall with the g1 and the iphone too. the android has that sort of limitless possibilities feeling, but this just seems bigger to me.

wow, i didn't mean to do a whole review on the thing but i'm really excited! this phone just feels like, if done right, there will be an endless amount of new options available for the user. good luck to you palm, and i look forward to seing all this phone can do.]]>Jan 9th 2009 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
Any one else have thoughts regarding the Pre and the N97?]]>Jan 8th 2009 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
For most engadget readers, who claim their eyes can't detect 200 dpi even up close .. this phone is good. But I can see up to 1200 dpi up close so I prefer the high res of the N97 because it will make a difference in making web pages readable without having to zoom in.
]]>Jan 8th 2009 6:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
I'm excited anyway. Long time Palm fan and its great to see them put out what looks like a bombshell product.]]>Jan 8th 2009 11:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 9th 2009 2:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/
1) MicroSD or some other expansion?
2) Flash?]]>Jan 8th 2009 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 5:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-in-depth-impressions-video-and-huge-hands-on-gallery/Jan 8th 2009 7:00PM