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The software looks dazzling and very intuitive, but I wonder how it responsive it is.]]>Jan 13th 2009 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
Palm's really surprised me here. I thought they were as dead as Moto.]]>Jan 13th 2009 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/The Pre makes the iPhone look like the iPhone Classic.]]>Jan 13th 2009 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
Kudos to palm. I'm going to try one out after being a die-hard HTC (WM yes, hate to admit it) fan. I switched from Palm to WM, now it's time to switch from WM back to (superior) Palm.]]>Jan 13th 2009 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
You are making my iPod "Classic" cry, stop it.]]>Jan 13th 2009 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/The kboard in portrait mode is plainly wrong for a device you want to surf the web with, I thought there would also be a touch screen landscape k-board, but no: it's not gonna be there.
No expansion memory. This sucks in any case, but I thought there would be plenty of GB on the phone itself. But no, 8 or 16 GB tops. While I'm used to the 32GB on my Omnia or the 24GB on my touch HD.
Moreover the news that its OS is a linux/java opened platform worries me more than everything.
In a device capable of receiving malicious e-mails, with BT and WIFI connection, I think that even I could write some lines of code to hijack this phone and do damage to it or/and its owner.
Yea, I know that win mobile could be just as vulnerable but the fact that it's so widespread makes it likely that you would hear of possible hacks before you get hit and give you the time to adopt some countermeasures, while the latest versions of WM have some defense already inbuilt.
But this new palm OS? It's new, and like all new softwares full of holes and open doors; and it's wide open sourced: brrr...
I dunno.
Surely I will not be one of the early adopters.
Beside I would be hard pressed to think of how a device could possibly be better than my Touch HD or my Samsung Omnia(i910).
Sure it's gonna be much better than the iPhone 3G, but nearly every new phone is nowadays.
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It also looks like the screen is covered in plastic, whereas the iPhone is covered with glass. Glass is harder to scratch, and more sturdy, and the iPhone's screen is coated with a layer that lowers the friction coefficient for smoother finger gestures. Glass is a better choice than plastic IMO.

That said, I am intrigued by webOS, and love the induction charger. Some nice ideas.


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Uhh, what? Your meaningless ramble about security has no content whatsoever. . .]]>Jan 13th 2009 9:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 10:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3390/3184021446_2fd787842c_o.png

Also, this screen isn't glass, which means it's going to get scratched to hell. Going with a glass screen is one of the smartest things Apple did. Plastic screens are only suitable for clamshells, which is what this phone should have been (even if it were a sideways-opening one).

]]>Jan 14th 2009 4:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
I have a Treo 680 which I love for Contacts, Schedule, Texting, AIM, and Memos but it's never been very good at phone calls, games, or surfing. I'm glad to see them not officially supporting OS5 apps. For the most part, OS5 apps are awful. With the exception of healthcare and aviation there's no reason to use a Palm for it's 3rd party apps. The beauty of this device is that those apps will still be possible since they weren't traditionally apps that needed to do 3d or anything too intense. Simply put: Dropping the OS5 apps is dropping the instability that the treo's have become known for.]]>Jan 14th 2009 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
I don't understand. You want it to open longer or not at all. This "waste of space" may make the sliding connection stronger to avoid flexing and twisting. Take away the slide and you would need to make the phone longer to add a physical k-board. To me, personally, I would think a clamshell with a k-board would have been a pain to use.... Receiving a message, quicking answering only to pull it out of my pocket again after getting another text message, I think I would find opening with one hand difficult.]]>Jan 14th 2009 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12643&contentId=14649

Hopefully it truly has "the same power footprint as other mobile chips" as they say. Otherwise we'll be grateful for that swappable battery fast!]]>Jan 13th 2009 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
as quoted from the "Life From Palm's CES Press Conference"
"11:16AM TI's latest OMAP CPU. The first one with this CPU"]]>Jan 13th 2009 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
that said the 3430 still has the PVR SGX 530 which is a pretty nice little 2d/3d chip

Pandora Specs (kept uptodate by the pandora community) http://pandorawiki.org/Pandora
Omap wikipage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_OMAP

The pandora has been clocked upto 900mhz and this is still within design specs and not considered overclocking also by design the OMAP 3xxx uses practically no power when idle since it halts and only processes as needed]]>Jan 13th 2009 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 9:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 14th 2009 8:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/That was by far the worst phone I've ever had. I don't see how anyone can convince me to spend a penny on another Palm product.]]>Jan 14th 2009 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
I wasn't in anyway saying what you said was inaccurate but afaik no one has clocked theirs up to a Ghz yet although it might be possible and of course the marvel chip is stated to go that fast

Also I was refering to the Video accelerator DSP being beefier (not the SGX since it is the same) although it is just a guess on my part since they are different chips and the 3430 is a lower part #]]>Jan 14th 2009 12:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 14th 2009 12:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 14th 2009 12:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 14th 2009 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 14th 2009 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://palmpreforum.org which has really helped me get over the learning curve. ]]>Feb 5th 2009 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://palmprefix.com/2009/02/19/palm-pre-touchstone-requires-matte-pre-case/ The number of choices blew my mind too. :)]]>Mar 1st 2009 2:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/>> ...There's still a lot we don't know about the Pre, ...

Like how it works as a phone?
]]>Jan 13th 2009 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
*rimshot]]>Jan 13th 2009 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
For me to switch from an iPhone to any other phone device I would need that new device to not only replicate all the hardware and phone functions but ALL of the productivity and leisure apps I currently enjoy. I don't see any phone getting anywhere near the funtionality of the iPhone+apps any time soon.

From the sound of it the Pre apps will be pretty limited at start since the apps are web based, similar to the web apps that showed up on the iPhone at launch. It wasn't until developers had full access to the iPhone OS that apps like audio recorders, file storage over wifi, Shazam, iTV, Joost video streaming, Pandora/Slacker music not to mention games started to come out.

I think a lot of people get hung up on how pretty the OS is and the hardware and fail to recognize the importance of apps! After all wasnt it app support (or lack there of) that doomed Amiga, MacOS7-9, BeOS and OS/2?
]]>Jan 13th 2009 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
Oh really? Because the iPhone still can't do the basic PDA functions that an 8MB Palm device handled with aplomb more than a decade ago. Memos with categories? To-do lists (at all, let alone with categories)? Nope.

How about third-party apps that sync with the computer? NOT ALLOWED BY APPLE, which has resulted in a bunch of klugey workarounds.

There is plenty of opportunity for just about ANY phone to kick the iPhone's ass in terms of REAL productivity apps.]]>Jan 14th 2009 4:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/90% of the apps on the app store are games.
The rest is facebook/IM/anyCRAPiCANgetONanyOTHERphoneBECAUSEjavaIScrossPLATFORM.
Where are the real apps ?
Does this sounds like productivity to you ?
Name me something I can't do on my Bold you can on your iPhone. I'd be glad to hear...

Back to the subject : Amazing UI with a very innovative way of dealing multitasking (oups that's 2 things iPhone is lacking : innovative and multitasking)]]>Jan 14th 2009 5:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
I think the missing hard buttons for call/hang up would have been nice, but I think I read that you can answer a call by opening the slider and closing it to hang up.]]>Jan 14th 2009 7:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 14th 2009 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/@ Information Central

There over 10 different to do apps in the app store. I am currently using ToDo along with Toodeldo 'cloud' service to keep my iPhone, cloud, and home computer synced. It works flawlessly and yes it has as many todo categories as I want.

Some other productivity apps I use
AirSharing - lets me store files on my iPhone from any computer over WiFi
iTalk - record audio to my iPhone then sync! with my computer
Evernote - lets me take notes, record audio note or take a picture. Syncs with the cloud and with my computer back home

Then some leisure apps
Shazam - figure out what song is playing just by holding your phone up
SimCity - need I say more
iSports - live in gave sports scores and info
Dynolicious - for my car, I can measure 0-60, skidpad etc and its more accurate than a $300 dedicated device I use to have
iFart - to make farting sounds when I read comments like yours on Engadget

]]>Jan 14th 2009 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/
http://www.palm.com/us/assets/images/products/phones/detail/pre/gallery/Phone.jpg

Look at the icon on the bottom left.

What do you think guys?]]>Jan 13th 2009 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/but that's just my thinking.]]>Jan 17th 2009 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/13/palm-pre-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know/Jan 13th 2009 5:44PM