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The irony is that Palm used to be Neil Page (Steve Martin) and had a bigger stick up their butts than Apple. ... 'til they got taken down a few notches by their own inability to improve the Palm OS.]]>Jan 15th 2009 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/
Seriously, how can you compare an alpha prototype with the real thing?]]>Jan 15th 2009 2:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 18th 2009 11:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/
"Seriously, how can you compare an alpha prototype with the real thing?"

I'm not exactly sure how this differs from early reactions to Android and the long-awaited G-Phone. There were people having orgasms over that puppy too before anything concrete arrived. That's not saying that i dislike Android, but people tend to get a little too psyched up about these things before they get out the door. Have a cold shower people!

While I'm thinking about it, the Blackberry Storm caused the same amount of fuss too, a long time prior to release. Ouch.]]>Jan 15th 2009 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/
haha he said like like ;] +1 typo]]>Jan 15th 2009 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/
best article in a long, long time]]>Jan 15th 2009 11:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 16th 2009 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/
]]>Jan 15th 2009 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/
Phillip Banks from Fresh Prince of bel-Air and the Voice of Shredder from the original TMNT cartoon. ;)

Out of Farley and Candy though. Gotta love John Candy more.]]>Jan 15th 2009 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Teddy Roosevelt
Luciano Pavarotti
Buddah
John Bellushi
Dionysius of Heracleia
Marlon Brando
Israel "Iz" Kaʻanoʻi Kamakawiwoʻole

There's even more proof out there that weight is no bar to greatness.


*except for the time he got stuck in the bathtub.]]>Jan 15th 2009 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/
I included Brando mainly because of The Godfather. Yes, he became famous as a young man, but he also proved that his skill in acting was not based upon his size.

"The list goes on dammit....."

Yep, I just didn't want to spend all my time builing a list that (by the time of its completion) would not be included in an *active* discussion.]]>Jan 15th 2009 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Ackroyd / Belushi beats Martin / Candy any day.]]>Jan 15th 2009 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 16th 2009 2:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Mar 25th 2009 10:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/
The only thing I take issue with is the Sprint comment. They really should be given a chance on this one. I'm not sure if Paul is aware of all the improvements in the last year. It takes a long time, years apparently, to change a bad stigma with the population so I understand why people still harp on Sprint, but if you take a close look at their industry leading customer service response times, single call resolution, and best ever network performance they are no long a distant third. Also, they are finally focusing on what matters, phones and applications. The Pre, Instinct, and Rant are proof on phones and their sweet homegrown TV (can you say live NFL??), GPS, and Music store apps are proof for applications. I've had my issues with them in the past. Now, I see no reason to leave and in fact I'm excited to see what they start bringing to the table this year for both phones and applications.
]]>Jan 15th 2009 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/
Now about that carrier exclusivity - for the amount of time that they're talking about it, it's CRAP. I agree that carrier exclusivity is a rather necessary thing for platforms coming right out of the water, but I mean - the iPhone's got a friggin' FIVE YEAR exclusivity deal with ATT. That's a load of crap - 6 to 9 months is a reasonable maximum for exclusivity deals with 2 and a quarter years being the absolute max - word of mouth doesn't take more than 6 to 9 months to spread, and 2 and a quarter years makes sure that everyone who wanted to switch carriers could do so with out ETF crap. But after that, I would really like to see the US mobile market start to approach the European model, where people just buy a SIM card and then choose a carrier - and, of course, to have Sprint and Verizon start (yes I know it's expensive to do, that's why I said START) to transition to the GSM mobile standard.]]>Jan 15th 2009 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/In all seriousness though, I'm pretty happy with Sprint EXCEPT for the fact that at my parents place I have never had good sprint reception. Not when I first got Sprint back in 2001, not when I went back to Sprint in 2007, and still not now. Right now I don't mind at all because my current phone (a Palm Treo 755p actually) has the ability to force roaming so I can force the phone to use Verizon when I'm in an area where I know my calls will drop on Sprint, but most phones don't support this and I can remember how miserable it was back in 01 when my phone had problems with voice and data and I couldn't force roaming (not that I would have anyways since I didn't have free roaming back then).
They still have some work they ought to do on their network coverage, but for what it's worth I do hear that if your reception really is truly awful they sometimes waive the cost of the airave box.]]>Jan 15th 2009 10:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/
I also liked how the poster didn't actually state anything negative about Sprint service, just said there has to be something negative.

I personally have had the best cell phone service on Sprint than I've ever had anywhere else. I am only paying $40/month. I am always on EVDO. My friend on Verizon gets knocked to 1xRTT every so often. AT&T keeps dropping calls and HSDPA LOL! I still don't get how Sprint is doing so poorly. They are definitely the most dependable 3G network!]]>Jan 15th 2009 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 2:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/
You see Sprint has a nationwide roaming contract with Verizon, including voice and 1xRTT. Which means that basically wherever you have Verizon service, you have Sprint service. All you need is a phone that allows you to choose which network to be on, and that's where Windows Mobile shines. As far as I know, all Sprint WM phones have this ability. The trick is to use the "Roaming Only" option when selecting the network, because phones are programmed to prefer their home network (Sprint) even if that network give ½ a bar compared to say 3 bars with the roaming network (Verizon). Btw, this option can be changed on the fly; even when ur on a call.]]>Jan 16th 2009 1:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 16th 2009 3:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 15th 2009 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/Jan 16th 2009 1:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/
As a former Verizon customer (since the Primeco PCS days) and existing AT&T customer (work phone), I can say that Sprint's nationwide coverage and overall quality is top notch.

Here's hoping that Dan Hesse follows through on his promise of delivering quality customer service.]]>Jan 15th 2009 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/what-apple-could-learn-from-palms-webos/
and sprints 3g network is as good as anybody's which is a big plus imo for this phone because 3g data is vital for these "internet powered" phones.]]>Jan 15th 2009 2:37PM