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I am speaking as a lifelong Nokia user.
My current phone is a Nokia N73.

They invent their own protocols, so that you have to buy their junk to use your own mobile.
Simple example: You cannot listen to music from your phone by simply plugging in a normal earphone set.
You need another part as a go-between. And of course there parts are flimsy, last too little, highly expensive, and lead to more waste.

Nokia, if you really want to impress us with green credentials, put your money where your mouth is...]]>Jan 16th 2009 8:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/
And is about two years newer than the N73.]]>Jan 16th 2009 9:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Jan 16th 2009 6:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Jan 16th 2009 7:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Jan 16th 2009 7:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Jan 16th 2009 7:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Jan 16th 2009 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Jan 16th 2009 6:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/
The cake is a LIE!]]>Jan 16th 2009 6:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Jan 16th 2009 6:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/The 3 covers are really the icing on the cake of contradiction.

In Portugal, every cellphone carrier gives you a 10 euro discount on new phones if you turn in *any* old cellphone that still switches on.
Nice, huh?
While commendable, you don't really know what happens to them, and you KNOW the price on any new phone ends up being 10 Euro higher for the sucker that doesn't find an old beat up phone to bring to the store, a sort of penalty for wanting to keep a backup phone, and more cash to them. Yay.
Guess it's more important to "feel" eco that to really be eco from a global logical standpoint, it's still the end result that matters... ]]>Jan 16th 2009 7:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/

Panda: Thanks, Nokia! You're awesome!
Nokia: WTF! ....did I just heard panda talking, or the panda just talked!]]>Jan 16th 2009 7:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Jan 16th 2009 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Jan 16th 2009 7:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Yeah, because leaving your 100 watt computer on just to charge your cell phone is really good for the environment!"

U can charge while you are using the computer and there are USB chargers around. If everyone would have an USB charger at home and all phone (and camera etc) manufacturers would put mini USB port in their machines (and exclude charger) there would soon be billions of less chargers in this world.]]>Jan 16th 2009 7:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Jan 16th 2009 7:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/
You can 'piggyback' several slots, I guess. But that just adds a lot of complexity to Joe User.]]>Jan 16th 2009 8:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Marketing will triumph over substance and truth in the last days.

Usability geek says:
Phones with the bottom row of buttons right on bottom edge of phone are extremely uncomfortable to thumb with.

Common sense says:
If you favour the World Wildlife Fund and don't think most charities pay lip service to your trust and money, keep your existing phone and send whoever-you-think-actually-does-good your own donation without the purchasing yet more damaging, shiny, new, harmful-to-the-environment electronics.

More 'eco' marketing BS for the masses. Yay.]]>Jan 16th 2009 8:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/
This and most other 'charity' lines actually contribute very little to the 'good cause'.
I know the charities are compelled to participate as any money is good money but if you want to support a good cause send them the money direct and buy the right product not the one with the fluffy panda on the packaging.

I was pretty disgusted to discover the tiny amount of cash that actually goes through to the charities from the Christmas cards sold in UK shops. Now I just buy nice cards and send £10 direct to Oxfam and they can claim back my income tax to push that up to £12.50.

And the world definitely needs a universal charging platform - I'm so sick of getting wall warts that suck power if you leave them plugged in - USB or miniUSB would get my vote.

You can have some fun by pressing the 'Take a survey' from the read link and let them know what you think.]]>Jan 16th 2009 8:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Jan 16th 2009 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Jan 16th 2009 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/
Wonder if chargers are included in "accessories"?]]>Jan 16th 2009 8:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Pfft, more like they want you to buy the charger separately since they get more profit out of it. Fail.]]>Jan 16th 2009 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Jan 16th 2009 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/nokia-n79-eco-shrinks-packaging-ditches-phone-charger/Jan 17th 2009 6:03PM