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Tar pipe blog post:

http://blog.tarpipe.com/2008/10/03/improve-your-device-battery-life/

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1/3rd of iphone battery....? rumor-ing again.....


Last me a full day even with Fbook app...

Use one of the apps in the market ( power manager .....etc) to manage battery life more.

System monitor (app) should you which apps are running in the background....but unfortunately does not let you kill em.
Hope to get something to take down background running apps in future releases ....




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Tried downloading it ......says it requires root access ...and that users without root access should not try downloading it. What does that mean ?
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Most iphone apps (98%) are crap and don't run in the background. The test was flawed from the start.

G1 users need to calibrate their battery (iphone users need to as well, just most don't report it on the web.

The g1 lasts as long as an iphone. The battery issue is a RC29 urban myth. If people keep saying it, I'll start saying the iphone is slow--it's 3g speeds are bogus.]]>Jan 16th 2009 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/Jan 16th 2009 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/Jan 16th 2009 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/
Hopefully Cupcake will bring better power management to the G1]]>Jan 16th 2009 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/I've found calls don't drain the battery that much...]]>Jan 16th 2009 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/Jan 16th 2009 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/I couldn't have said it better myself. It seems data kills the battery. I could use the phone and have a 30 min conversation on 3g and it wont affect my battery like 5-10 mins of browsing or messing with apps. I know it has something to do with the fact that the operating system is still in a very primitive state and they have some work to do in the power management deptartment especially because the G1 really is a multitasking phone.]]>Jan 16th 2009 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/Jan 16th 2009 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/
It's not like I don't ever do anything with it either. I text message often enough, make a few phone calls here and there (business man afterall), constantly look through the marketplace to see whats new, and I absolutely can't stop playing PapiJump.

The only thing I do is actively manage my apps. Whenever I install one I gauge the reaction from my phone for the next day. If I notice a drop in battery life or performance when not using the app I immediately remove it.

G1's are like people, if you keep feeding it crap and not trimming the fat it'll become slow, unhealthy, and have poor performance.]]>Jan 16th 2009 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/Jan 16th 2009 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/
A lot of people reccomend turning off both GPS and Cell Location services, but I think that's not a big deal. I used to have them turned off but decided to turn them back on, and it has made no noticeable change to my battery life at all.

It looks to me like those location services don't run constantly in the background, all you're doing by enabling them is making them available to a program that wants to use them. So if you're not using Google Maps or some other GPS program, the GPS is never going to do anything. I haven't tried it, but running Locale would probably kill your battery since it needs almost constant location updates in order to work well.]]>Jan 16th 2009 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/Jan 16th 2009 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/Jan 16th 2009 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/Jan 16th 2009 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversized-g1-battery-is-bursting-with-juice-and-joy/I think there should be a cover option with wireless power receiver (sold with the corresponding wireless power pad - or 2 pads: 1@home 1@work) like this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2861987.stm
I'm certain a lot of G1 users would want one of this kits...
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Anyone, ANYONE who finds the Iphone battery to last 2/3 longer than the G1 is a either A. a complete moron OR B. completely biased in the Iphones favor.

The battery longevity is at the very LEAST on par for both phones as long as similar situations are in place ie: 3G is enabled, Satellite & Wireless assisted GPS is enabled, Wireless when available is activated and Bluetooth is on. Obviously if you mix and match then you'll get different results. Also very dependent are the apps that the phones are running, so to really pit the phones against each other there's really only one way to do it fairly and objectively - factory reset both handsets and turn some of the non-everyday 'extras' off, and by extras I mean wireless and gps (including wireless assisted gps) and leave the somewhat essentials enabled, like bluetooth and 3G. Since let's just assume that these are the bare essentials for todays cellphone user. It'd also be nice to disable the G1's autochecking of you your gmail cloud for contacts/calendar/email etc because that's obviously an 'unfair' drain in comparison with the Iphone....but you don't even have to do that. Set brightness to 0/lowest setting and proceed to test.

The G1 comes out on top not only on pure standby (~385 hrs, roughly 16 days in 3G mode with cloud checks and BT on and wifi/gps on but not associated/ no active mapping vs. 300 hrs on the Iphone or roughly 12 days with the same setup) but also for 3G talk time where the G1 gets ~6 hrs = ~360 minutes vs. Iphones ~5 hrs = ~300 minutes. The G1 gets around ~12 days in GSM standby mode because I'm assuming the auto checks took longer (I mean, I know they do - I've tested it....but I let the phones sit without touching them for the standby tests).
The Iphone only really whips the G1 sinfully when it comes to Video and Audio Playback, where the G1 gets roughly 1/2 the time of the Iphone on a full charge. You get roughly a day of ipod music to the G1's 11-12hrs if you're lucky and 7 hrs of Video on the Ipod to a measly 4 on the G1. I'm thinking this is the case because the Iphone has dedicated video hardware, whereas the G1 uses it's CPU for video. I don't know why the Iphone plays music for so much longer....maybe dedicated audio hardware? /shrug.

There you go .... from someone who likes both phones. They both have much to offer.



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