http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/ Engadget Comments for Sony doth protest too much: don't call the VAIO P a netbook? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 8:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 10:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
that's what I was thinking...]]>Jan 20th 2009 10:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
Ultraportable laptops are laptops which are still usable for far more than just typing a word document.]]>Jan 20th 2009 11:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
Plus, Sony has stated that the Vaio P is a Ultra Portable and it even has a similar style as the Vaio C1]]>Jan 20th 2009 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
Where have I heard this non-sense before...

PS3 is not a game console, its a computer.

Oh yea.]]>Jan 21st 2009 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 21st 2009 2:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
"You can, but why would you want to?"

You can have a sony netbook (let's face it, it's a netbook, too small to be anything else), but why would you want to when there are very similar products at 1/2 the price?

You can have a sony netbook thats very light, but why would you want to as, as stated elsewhere in the comments, unless you're a kitten you're not gonna struggle to carry any of them.

Netbooks are great in a sense of "disposable computing", they are there for surfing the web and putting down wherever's convenient, and giving to your kids to play with, as well as (assuming 3G capability) on the move etc. Although I'd still rather lug a 12-13.3" laptop round instead, not like they are really that heavy. I can imagine people with this would keep it in a pretentious leather case, much like the Macbook Air with the manila envelope.

Sony is attempting to appeal to the people who buy expensive things, not because they are better, but because they are more expensive.]]>Jan 21st 2009 4:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 21st 2009 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 21st 2009 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 8:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 9:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 9:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 9:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
Call this a netbook.]]>Jan 20th 2009 9:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 10:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 10:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
It should be called a Pocket PC]]>Jan 21st 2009 4:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.hsn.com/collectibles/1934-series-1000-u-s-bank-note_p-1572640_xp.aspx]]>Jan 21st 2009 6:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
Of course its a netbook. They're just being stupid.

I don't know what they're thinking with Vista and a 1.3GHz version at the $900 price point. Wait for them to kill of the 1.3GHz model and start shipping with Windows 7 and maybe I can see some people buying it strictly for the style factor.

I don't think they'll be displacing Acer as the #1 netbook manufacturer with this thing though.]]>Jan 21st 2009 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 22nd 2009 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 8:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 9:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
/s]]>Jan 20th 2009 10:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 11:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 21st 2009 12:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 9:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
its ok dude Sony a huge multinational does not need your pity.]]>Jan 21st 2009 6:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 9:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/and proved the P is in fact an expensive netbook....]]>Jan 20th 2009 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 21st 2009 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 9:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 9:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
So why isn't a Vaio P a netbook? All netbook means is a smaller notebook/laptop.]]>Jan 20th 2009 10:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
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The category of NETBOOK is a subcategory of a LAPTOP (NETBOOK=small laptop), so Sony going out of their way to further subdivide the laptop categories is unnecessary. There's nothing in it but marketing. They want to set themselves apart, not because they need to, but because they're charging 500 bucks more for something that's is not that fundamentally different.]]>Jan 20th 2009 9:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
Pretol: Maybe you should READ my entire comment before making your own so you don't look like an idiot. Maybe you should work as an intern for Josh T.

Just in case you missed it the first time: "It seems silly for them to start an argument like this, but I think they're just trying to hit home that people shouldn't compare the Vaio P to netbooks when doing their shopping, much like how someone shopping for a Macbook Air woudln't compare it to a Dell Vostro 1310- they may have the same screen size, but their designs and purposes are very different."

The point was that they were just trying to make sure people know that the Vaio P is very different from netbooks. Yet, Engadget turns this into a whinefest so that the anti-Sony crowd on this website can form a circle jerk.

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P.S. Networks are so called because they are small and low powered. Making a netbook smaller doesn't suddenly create a new category, that's part of the definition of the term. Enjoy your $2.04.]]>Jan 20th 2009 10:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
There are only two things that make the VAIO P more than a netbook, the price and the screen resolution. All of Josh's other points are 100% valid, and in some ways the VAIO P is inferior to other netbooks (keyboard weaker than the HP Mini,

The ONLY reason Sony doesn't want it to be called a netbook is because of their prior claim that entering the netbook race is a nothing more than a 'race to the bottom'. Everybody else is going to call it a netbook whether they like it or not, because in the end, it's usually hardware (guts and form factor) that define a category.

Wait... maybe you're right.

The VAIO P isn't a netbook at all. It's an overpriced palmtop. Maybe we should alert their marketing gurus. :p]]>Jan 20th 2009 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
PS. I wonder what you think about UMPCs then if only netbooks are small and low powered. Also, IIRC, one of the most popular comments on Engadget was about how the more expensive netbooks weren't really netbooks because netbooks are supposed to be cheap! Suddenly, the community has a change of heart? Give me a break. I'm not a shill. I'm just not a fan of stupidity and irrationality.]]>Jan 20th 2009 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/
You're flat out wrong. Their main goal is to highlight the main difference between the Vaio P and netbooks. They are completely valid points because, as I've said, no other machine offers all of those features in 1 package. No other offers such a form factor with such a design. That is FACT. UMPCs are just smaller netbooks with a different form factor, so why aren't they called netbooks or small tablet PCs? I don't see anyone whining about that.

The only people that feel it's necessary to make a fuss over their semantics are the oversized children of the technology blogging world- the same community that whines about the many models of the Eee line or how Asus used the "Eee" brand for products other than netbooks. Yes, I'm talking about this bipolar community that has as many geniuses as it does have morons. For every Nilay Patel, there is a Josh T here, unfortunately.


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I'll call it a palmtop.

In either case, I doubt the marketing wonks at Sony will be happy with either of those categories either.

As for the rest of your tirade, you really picked a lame topic to get a bug up yerself about. This article was BARELY biased compared to many other Josh T joints I've read, and given that it's ultimately an argument about a few inches, you'd think it's the Long Man Competition at the adult video awards.

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How nice, here begins the personal insults when you have nothing else to say.

dTondro: I didn't say I didn't like Engadget. I just don't like Josh T. Every one of his posts suck. If Nilay were running this site, I would be happier, but that doesn't mean I don't like Engadget.

Yeah, I don't care much for the naming. I'm defending them because the Engadget post was wrong and biased on many accounts. The rest of the community, however, seems to REALLY care about what a netbook is. I insulted people for their whining over expensive Eees being called netbooks and I'll do it here.

Downrank me some more will you.]]>Jan 21st 2009 9:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 9:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 9:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 9:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 27th 2009 3:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/sony-doth-protest-too-much-dont-call-the-vaio-p-a-netbook/Jan 20th 2009 9:11PM