http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/ Engadget Comments for Microsoft reports $100M decline in Zune revenue http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/Jan 23rd 2009 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
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And that's at the top of the heap. Between the Zune and the iPod Touch are numerous others which are cheaper and in many cases better alternatives to a Zune.

Compared to an iPod Touch/iPhone - this thing's a joke]]>Jan 23rd 2009 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/Jan 23rd 2009 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/Jan 23rd 2009 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
Perhaps you should look at this page here. It's from a website called "wikipedia": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_differentiation ]]>Jan 23rd 2009 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
Precisely. I got my sister a Zune 8 for Christmas. She was bummed she didn't get an iPod Touch. "Why?" I asked. "It has internet," she replied.

When I explained to her the features of the Zune 8, compared to an iPod nano, she began to understand.

People just don't get it.]]>Jan 23rd 2009 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
In other words, nothing you wrote above makes sense.

]]>Jan 23rd 2009 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
Hold the phone...so your sister wanted an iPod *Touch*. You got her a Zune instead, which she complained about. And you proceeded to tell her why the Zune is better than the iPod *Nano* which she didn't even want in the first place???

That's some clever salesmanship. Completely dishonest, but clever.]]>Jan 23rd 2009 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
The zune is not the equivilent of an iPod touch. The nano and classic are. You are a tool.]]>Jan 23rd 2009 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
By your logic, the iPod Classic is not in the same class as the Zune, since the Zune has a Wi-fi and the Classic doesn't. Also, the Zune has a radio, which means it's a radio player, while the iPod Classic and the Nano are just MP3 players. Totally different categories, don't you see?

/sarcasm

Who the heck made up that stupid argument separating the Zune and the iPod Touch? It's truly pathetic that all the fanboys latched onto that argument to support a music player that's obviously inferior.

The iPod Touch is better. Get over it.

]]>Jan 23rd 2009 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/Jan 23rd 2009 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/Youre not rendint the music. 10 songs every month for 15 dollars + unlimited songs.
Youre paying 10 dollars for 10 songs already, i much rather have the entire marketplace then 5 other songs. hell, even itunes is starting to charge you more because you think its acceptable. ]]>Jan 23rd 2009 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
Microsoft and apple make flash and hardrived based PMP's. The Zune range has more features. Apple also produces a touch screen model that is in a completely different price range.

I'm failing to see how Microsoft having more features in the same price range is playing into your hands.

Incidentally, I have an iPod nano, which makes me even more perturbed when you make people who own them look like fucking idiots.]]>Jan 23rd 2009 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
Congrats Microsoft. ]]>Jan 23rd 2009 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
If you think the Zune is better than the iPod Touch because of hard drive space and price, then just say that. But don't give me that BS that they aren't in the same category.

They are both MP3 players, hence they are in the same category. If you go on a site like Amazon and look up MP3 players, even Amazon lists them in the same category. The only people that think they aren't in the same category are Zune fanboys and Apple haters. If anyone is embarassing, it's them.



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Today I'm not going to just sit here. I'm going to tell you why the Zune is not in the same category as the iPod Touch.

I took a business course and I remember one thing the teacher mentioned about competing services. A service can only be a substitute for another service if and only if it can replace the major functions of the other.

The Zune is not a touch device the Zune is more an MP3 player than a video player. Don't get me wrong the Touch can do most things the Zune can (MP3 wise) but the Touch plays a different role. It's more of a video viewing device than the Zune. As a result IMO those are the major differences that put the Touch on another level.

Yes they both play MP3s but the interface on both devices is totally different (touch VS buttons). One device is more focused on Video than the other one is more focused on MP3s than the other. These differences create two totally different devices. That aren't necessarily competing for the same demographic amongst music listeners. If they were competing in the exact same demographic than the Classic would competing with the Touch.

I will cut this wall of text here. But for those that don't agree with me answer me this: "which is better the Touch or the Classic?"]]>Jan 23rd 2009 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/Jan 23rd 2009 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
Since you are becoming the preeminent Apple fanboy around here, let me ask you this question:

How are sales of the Apple TV? I mean, it is the most awesomest of all products, right? So it should be selling billions of units, right?

Is Zune selling great compared to iPod, no, it is not. I wish it were because it is a great product, it is not selling like is should. And as a iPod owner, I enjoy my Zune much more.
Is Apple TV selling great compared to Windows Media Center, no, it is not. I cannot vouch for the quality of the Apple TV, because I don't have one but Media Center is amazing. If you are so interested in talking about numbers of products that are not doing so well, why don't you (and really, why doesn't Engadget - are they trying to hide failures of Apple while glorify failures of MS???) talk about poor sales of other products? Hmmmmm?

Oh, and to answer your other question posted further down about why are people bringing up Apple, it is because the article talks about iPod and Apple - it is right there in the article.]]>Jan 23rd 2009 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
iPod sales are increasing and the Zune is losing money. WTF did they expect. Get real.]]>Jan 23rd 2009 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
But a few points. First of all, you can't justify separating the Zune and iPod Touch by price. The iPod Touch is 229 and the Zune 120 is 229. Hmmmm, I wonder why Microsoft set the price there, maybe because they're competing with the Touch? No, couldn't be.

And this interface argument just blows. Devices compete based on interfaces. If your interface is better, then the customer is more likely to buy it. That doesn't automatically mean they get thrown out of the same category.

Microsoft tried to use that sort of argument to prop up their sales of the Xbox 360 against the Wii. Basically, they said that the Xbox 360 was not competing with the Wii because the 360 was "high definition" and the Wii was not. Where does it end? The next thing you know Microsoft will be blowing off the Wii by saying, oh well, we don't compete with the Wii because it has motion controls and we don't. Well, duh, that's how Nintendo is beating their console.

It's just a silly argument. People buy the Wii because it has a better interface than the 360. That doesn't give them a category all to themselves. They are both consoles. If you guys continue this nonsense, what's next? Does Ford get to blow off Toyota because they created a hover car and Ford cars still have wheels? Nonsense!!!

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Let's compare at the same price points the Zune and the Touch.

Touch = 8GB = $229
Zune = 120GB = $235 (@ Newegg)

Price difference = $6 or 2.5% difference
Storage space difference = 112GB

You would need FIFTEEN Touch's (at the Zune 120 price) to get the same storage space as a single Zune 120. Cost comes out to $3525.

Of course, you could opt for 16GB Touch. Then you would only need 7.5 to get the same storage as a Zune. Your price drops down to $2242. The "best" deal would be the 32GB Touch. Now you are only talking about needing 4 Touches. At the $399 price you can get equivalent storage for the bargain basement price of just $1600.

Are you starting to see why some people argue that they are not direct comparisons? Here, I'll make it even simpler.

If you want full internet access and the ability to load up apps go with the Touch, Archos or something like the Nokia N810 - on sale yesterday for $220 at buy.com.

If you want huge storage that is primarily an MP3 player with occasional movie viewing then go for a Zune 80/120 or on the iPod classics.
If you want a smaller device with flash based memory stick with the Nano or the Zune 4/8/16.

Those are your comparisons.]]>Jan 23rd 2009 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
Zunes: Flash 80/120
iPods: Nano Classic Touch iPhone

The zune is not competeing in the touch or phone sectors of the mp3 player market. I didn't realise they were the same price in that states (apple adds about a third to UK prices where I live) but surely you can see that the exsiting zunes are desinged to compete with the most similar apple product. People who prefer harddrive space to touch screens have the zune 120 and iPod classic to chose from, for size there are the flash models, whereas poeple who want a touch screen over space have only the iTouch. So saying that the zune 120 is rubbish for not having all the features that are also lacking the classic is a bit daft? I can call Flashpoint a tool?]]>Jan 23rd 2009 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
If an Apple fanboy comes out and says, "Hey, the Classic isn't in the same category as the Zune now, therefore they don't compete."

Be honest now. If an Apple fanboy were to say that, you would laugh in his face.

Storage space is a spec. Specs are used in comparisons. Comparisons sell devices. For instance, some people say the PALM Pre will be better than the iPhone because it has copy and paste and multi-tasking. Some people say the iPod Classic is better than the Zune because it has a television and movies available to it and more accessories. You guys say the Zune is better than the iPod Classic because it has radio and Wi-Fi and that's valid.

I'm not saying that the Zune isn't better than the iPod Classic. I'm just saying that you can't put the iPod Touch in a different category just because it fits your particular prejudice.

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Anyone who's a little more proficient in Javascript and wants to build a more useful "block" link into it is more than welcome!

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/36579]]>Jan 23rd 2009 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
By all means, let's block all the people that don't agree with our particular point of view.

/sarcasm

You guys are a bunch of Communists.

Seriously, I love all the people that disagree with me, even my stalker who wastes his time looking up points I made elsewhere on the internet. I would never recommend that they be banned or even low ranked. You guys take these discussions much too seriously.

And to all you guys threatening to leave Engadget every time they don't write an article exactly to your sophisticated specifications, just please, GET A FREAKING LIFE.



]]>Jan 23rd 2009 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/or he is just an empty soul who gets his nights sleep knowing that in some little corner of the internet someone somewhere probably maybe thinks he is a bad ass!

Someone really needs to get that block script working!]]>Jan 23rd 2009 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
Apple v. Microsoft
iPod Classic 80/120 Zune80/120

iPod Nano 8/16 Zune4/8/16

iPod Touch NOTHING YOU FUCKING IDIOT!

NO OTHER MP3 PLAYER FROM MICROSOFT HAS A COMPLETELY TOUCH SCREEN BASED USER INTERFACE!

Get it through your thick head.]]>Jan 23rd 2009 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
I do it because it is fun point out what a Apple apologist you are. You claim to be a Microsoft fanboy and yet take every chance you can to slam them, but think that Apple is pure and true. Slamming Microsoft when they deserve it, that is good. Slamming them simply because, that makes you an Apple fanboy.

I do it because I like to point out your hipocracy. The argument of the Apple fanboy is that everything does is to copy Apple. Then you turn around and do nothing but lie (claiming you are a big fan of Microsoft), and steal (copying other's arguments, claim they are your own, and then post them).

"You guys are a bunch of Communists." - Ahhh yes, when you start to lose an argument and have nothing else to fall back on, call names. I thought Zak had the corner on that market. But as you are clearly missing, this is Engadget's site and not a government site. If they wish to "censor" you, that is their right, ability, and responsibility - and we all know they have used that right, ability, and responsibility before on you.

But that is my opinion, the opinion of a stalker.]]>Jan 23rd 2009 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/Jan 23rd 2009 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
Is Zune selling great compared to iPod, no, it is not. I wish it were because it is a great product, it is not selling like is should. And as a iPod owner, I enjoy my Zune much more.

Oops, but don't worry about no edit, I fixed it:

nohone meant:

Is OS/2 selling great compared to MS Windows, no, it is not. I wish it were because it is a great product, it is not selling like is should. And as a MS Windows owner, I enjoy my OS/2 much more.]]>Jan 23rd 2009 4:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
I don't give a goddamn if a Zune has 4TB of storage - compared to a 8 or 16GB iPod touch, the simple fact is, the ZUNE is STILL LACKLUSTER.

If you're shopping based on storage capacity alone - then there are better options than the touch...but the truth is, the iPod Touch offer way, WAY more than the Zune and most other DAP's on the market.

There is no way you can argue against an internet capable device with wifi downloading of applications and music - with features like Contacts, Calendar, Photos plus integrated EMAIL plus every other damn App you can add to it.

To argue against this is a sign of LUNACY...or sheer hate for the company.

Listen - I love microsoft too. Especially for the Xbox360. BUT DON'T TRY TO BULLSHIT ME.]]>Jan 23rd 2009 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/Jan 24th 2009 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
its just a pity the device is so damned locked down and cumbersome to connect to the computer that I hardly ever use the damned thing.

UNLOCK the god damned hardware and you will KILL apple.]]>Jan 25th 2009 2:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/Jan 26th 2009 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=2569
5M WM & 4.4M iPhone in Q4 2008]]>Jan 23rd 2009 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/Jan 23rd 2009 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/Jan 23rd 2009 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/lol
Then why do you report iPod sales? You know it has a FAR larger marketshare than zune/creative/etc..

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Given the way Engadget generally reports Windows Mobile stories (with lashings of sarcasm, the essential Apple reference and a generally negative tone) anyone could be forgiven for thinking that the product line was about to collapse. I'm actually surprised to hear that WinMo did outsell the iPhone and it's pretty pathetic that you guys constantly denigrate what is clearly a popular product.

I sure hope you two don't lose your jobs soon because you don't seem to have any problems undermining the products that keep good people employed at Microsoft.

]]>Jan 23rd 2009 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/
1) MS sells WinMo devices in a considerably more HW, in more countries and on more networks.
2) The devices are typically considerably cheaper.
3) Apple gets paid for the HW and SW sale of each iPhone.
4) Apple doesn't need to remove profit to push old inventory.

Measuring unit sales only works when you compare like things, which is why measuring Macs to Windows has never made sense. Apple is typically the 5th or 6th largest PC vendor in the US, but when you compare OSes it's only 1/9th the size of MS' Windows.

The only relevant measure of a for profit company is its profits. Apple made $1.25 Billion on their iPhone segment for calendar Q4. What did MS make selling 5M OEM copies of WinMo? They would have to have sold each OEM copy to vendors at $250/each to equal Apple's revenue in that same quarter, yet I think I read once that they cost about $8 on average. That would be $40M, which isn't bad, but it's surely not anything great for a major tech company.

PS: I'm glad to see Palm not using WinMo for the Pre and, at least looking like, Palm is back in the running with a decent device. I thought using WinMo-based Palm devices was going to bury them.
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Oh and by the way. The guys above do have a point. I can't remember last time I saw "MS has record breaking QX".

But the writers do have a point too. WinMo is on many devices while the iPhone is only 1. ]]>Jan 23rd 2009 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/Jan 23rd 2009 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/microsoft-reports-100m-decline-in-zune-revenue/

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