http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 30th 2009 12:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 31st 2009 3:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/
The maximum speed you can get out of a 3 mega*bit* connection is around 450 kilo*bytes*. Your cable connection is performing excellently. You don't buy connections in megabytes per second (MB), but in megabits (Mb)

I know you have a 3 megabit connection because a 3 megabyte connection would be 24 megabits- and the most charter offers is 16.

Stop bagging your ISP for providing you exactly what they said they would, and learn your units.
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@Neosim - Even with Tayklor getting the math incorrect, they still throttle connection speeds. They make money on hoping that their users will ignore the persistent issues or by merely hoping that they are just dumb enough not to notice. Seriously, the only people I know who do not have a bad opinion of Charter are the 40+ year-olds who aren't technologically savvy. They just pay their bills and move on.

Just so everyone knows, if you have charter, you can usually get about a 50% reduction in your monthly rate just by calling and threatening to cancel. I am currently paying $15 for 5 Mb. I think I get what I pay for though, the signal is never steady and I live 10 miles from downtown STL. It always seems to be worse at the end of the month, we don't have cable and watch Hulu all the time. I think they are capping us without letting us know. Once that year is up, I will probably move to another provider. ]]>Jan 29th 2009 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 4:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/ with 6 computer always active doing something on the net i had no problems at all

so far it been the best isp i used

now for there tv service that another story ]]>Jan 29th 2009 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/
and i also hope they raise/remove this damn 60gb/month limit :@

oh and BTW, is their logo blurred out for a reason or is it actually like that? :P]]>Jan 29th 2009 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/
I'm on teksavvy, it might only be 5Mbit unlimited, and it might be throttled at peak hours, but I still managed to use well over 240GB last month. I try use as much bandwidth as I can, because I'm pissed at the asshats at bell that try to limit my usage. ]]>Jan 29th 2009 8:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 10:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/
What needs to happen in order for us to at least catch up?]]>Jan 29th 2009 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Running wire/fiber ain't cheap.

Competition wouldn't hurt either. You'll notice the sudden ability of cable providers didn't happen until FiOS came around. Cable had been trouncing DSL for too long and got complacent. Now that they're actually facing verizon as a competitor again, customers in those markets win big, even if they stay with cable. (all it takes is a phone call..."Gee they ran this fancy new fiber to my house....are you guys running any specials?")]]>Jan 29th 2009 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/
In much of the rest of the world, they pay a whole lot more than we do. They pay for it differently. They pay a little fee or none out of pocket directly for the service, but pay a massive fee as part of their taxes.

The price we pay for in use for high speed service is quite fair considering the cost in providing it. If you don't like throttling, then pay a higher price so the lines can be upgraded.]]>Jan 29th 2009 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/
Here in London I pay £18 per month ($25?) for unlimited 22 meg broadband. And by unlimited I mean unlimited; last months downloads encroached 400 gig. Thankyou Be!]]>Jan 29th 2009 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/
I have a feeling that DOCSIS won't be offered by ours any time soon. ]]>Jan 29th 2009 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/
But not enough to live in France.]]>Jan 29th 2009 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 4:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 30th 2009 6:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/
i'm sitting here on what's usually a 3mbps connection... i'd give anything just to have what i'm paying for, let alone 60mbps.]]>Jan 29th 2009 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/
It may not be the real reason, but I'd wager it's something discussed behind closed doors at Verizon. ]]>Jan 29th 2009 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/
I get a reliable 20/5mbit connection that pretty much always delivers that bandwidth. And most importantly when I originally wired (unlike the guy comcast sent out), the verizon fiber techs they sent to my house to hook up, didn't balk at a very complex network of carefulyl partitioned gigabit network segments with static and DHCP addressing and complex home theater setup. These guys asked smart questions (and knew how to read my network diagram I have up on my plywood) and got it right. They even knew how to program the Tivo Series 3 cablecards (that was fun with comcast in the beginning).

I have found them to be excellent at customer service, and the price is reasonable considering the bandwidth (for all you europeans, yes your cable/internet may be cheaper, but let's look at tax costs (VAT? Isn't that what you brew beer in?) which subsidize this, when added in I bet the US model is cheaper [someone else can figure this out, I haven't finished my coffee].]]>Jan 30th 2009 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/

Can't stand AT&T (the absolutely worst land mobile network in the history of communications) and their 4Mbps garbage pure garbage DSL...]]>Jan 29th 2009 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 4:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/Jan 29th 2009 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/charter-launching-60mbps-broadband-asks-fios-what/
FiOS 50/20 with 32 customers sharing 2.4 Gbps/1.2 Gbps of bandwidth - $140
Charter 60/5 with dozens of customers sharing 152/30 Mbps of bandwidth - $130-140

Upload speed is very much meh. I'd much rather have a 15/15 symmetric connection, which cable pretty much can't do.

Also, wherever Charter sells their $130 60/5 service, Verizon is going to drop prices on its 50/20 internet to $90. And get all the customers they want.

Heck, Verizon will probably up their internet service to 75 or 100 Mbps on the high end later this year, thus blowing Comcast and Charter outta the water. They simple can't compete without making major infrastructure improvements. Verizon has to do almost nothing to improve their network to match...

Also, Charter will be selling 20/2 internet as their next highest tier. Right around the price of Verizon 20/5 service. Yep, 150% more upstream speed. Looks like Charter is stomped right out of the gate.

Still, it's better than my options here: DOCSIS 1.1 cable via Comcast or ADSL (5/896 is the highest speed) via Qwest. Fortunately Comcast is very good network-quality-wise here (not quite perfect but decent) however I'm paying $55 per month now, $65 per month soon for a 8 Mbit connection. The real reason I'm paying the extra few bucks is I want my 2 Mbit upstream...

Just wondering...what'll Time Warner Cable do now? 50/2?]]>Jan 29th 2009 4:42PM