http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/ Engadget Comments for Netgear's Coax-Ethernet Adapter up for pre-order http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/
While I do not know how the initial units are being packaged, you will need atleast 2 boxes, 1 at the head end (your gateway, router, switch etc etc), and 1 at the other end of where ever you want the wires to go.

All the box is doing is ethernet over coax, so plug in a cheap 4 port switch at the second location, and connect the head end device to a switch or router, and your fine.

It would have been nice to have these when I was wiring my house, as I have FIOS with S3 Tivos. So every drop in my house is a COAX and ethernet drop, which was a pain to wire. As someone previously pointed out, wiring an existing house can take a crapton of drywall patching and painting, so for the price of these units, its not unreasonable (unless of course you do the wiring yourself, then I dont thing the netgear units are worth it).

On the other hand, if all anyone needs is a moca bridge, check ebay for the Motorola NIM 100 (those were the original MoCA bridges verizon used with the straight up wireless router they supplied, before switching to the Actiontec Routers which include the MoCA bridge)]]>Jan 29th 2009 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 30th 2009 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 31st 2009 1:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Even with a keg of beer for the friends that help out, I think wiring Cat5 will still be cheaper.]]>Jan 29th 2009 9:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/ made of concrete and there are pipes everywhere for power, TV and telephony.
All it takes is to switch the regular phone outlet with dual RJ45 ports and you're set.
(some lube might be required to force the wire through the pipe)

From experience, installing wiring in American houses involves getting on the ceiling,
weighting your wire with some lead and gently lowering it down the inside of the (dry)wall.
There is usually some drilling involved in the 2x4 at the top of the (dry)wall.
(be sure not to let teh drill go too far through the beam, because it will
catch onto the insulation and get stuck in the beam)

On the upside, air ducts are very convenient conductors for network wire
(just be sure to use outdoor-rated wiring).]]>Jan 29th 2009 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/
http://www.joshuaochs.com/Home/The_House/Pages/Home_Wiring.html
]]>Jan 29th 2009 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/
Heh.]]>Jan 29th 2009 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/
That said, costwise it may be cheaper to wire your house with CAT5/5e but this gives you ease of use, and you can take it with you if you move, such as from apartment to apartment until getting your own house.]]>Jan 29th 2009 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/
No, my house was a 25 year old wiring disaster. True story: When I moved in I needed to add a second phone line. I went out and looked at the NID on the back of the house, and to my horror saw the phone line come out of the box, go *over the roof* (as in, bare wire sitting on the shingles - in Chicago winters no less), and punch into the second floor on the front of the house. It then daisy-chained everywhere else using some of the crappiest wire I've ever seen.

I fear my electrical wiring - who uses pink, green, and yellow (and green is hot, not ground!)?

Meanwhile, I ran Cat6 instead of Cat5 because I wanted full gigabit speeds - Cat5E will only get you up into the 400Mbps range IIRC. If I didn't want the speed, I would have just stuck with wireless.]]>Jan 30th 2009 4:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/
The signaling standard is different. If it's anything like HPNA, which does the same thing but over the phone lines, you actually can use it without the internet involved. If you wanted to simply run a stand alone network in your house using the coax you could do it with this stuff. Cable modems wouldn't allow that...

But the important differences to most peopleare probably that you only lease/pay for a single IP from your BB provider, an you don't rent this box from your BB provider (as many people rent their cable modems).


]]>Jan 29th 2009 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/
Do you even know what it is this does?]]>Jan 29th 2009 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/
Isn't coax inferior as a signal carrier to Ethernet?]]>Jan 29th 2009 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 30th 2009 2:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/
Not only does it support up to 200mbps, is easier than a toaster to use (absolutely no software to install/configure) - it even has a 128-bit encryption mode if you're creating a virtual wired network alongside others. - I got it at Sam's Club with a 1-port unit (to bridge Ethernet to Powerline) and a 4-port 'remote' switch for ~$160.

I'm running business-grade (G.711) VoIP from a distant home-office over it and it couldn't be better.]]>Jan 29th 2009 9:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/wall. My whole house is wired with coax - every single room. Sheesh,
figures this came out 3 weeks after wiring from one end of the house
to the other for Ethernet.

Isn't coax inferior as a signal carrier to Ethernet?]]>Jan 29th 2009 9:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/now we just need to wire our homes with fiber and enjoy quad hd resolution porn on our gigatron tv set :P]]>Jan 29th 2009 9:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/ 38Mbps.

So anyway, yes cable has a lot of bandwidth. But of course you can't use any of that with this device, as it is running on the same cable as your cable TV/internet. So MoCA uses bandwidth ABOVE that, which I assume means its stuff above 1GHz. Not sure of the details though.

Given that this thing is so big, its too bad they didn't put more than one Ethernet port on the thing. I have lots of applications where there are two devices (Tivo, Sling or Tivo, DVD) in the same room that both need network access.]]>Jan 29th 2009 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 30th 2009 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 4:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 1:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 30th 2009 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/
If this is meant for older homes that don't want to add new wire, wouldn't the existing coax cable already be being used for cable TV/stelite etc?? Just a thought.

Why not just get a wireless box and add wireless to each machine, I think it would be cheaper. Most ISP's will give you a wireless router when you order service.]]>Jan 29th 2009 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/Jan 29th 2009 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/ Wireless performance
MoCA throughput > Wireless throughput
MoCA latency < Wireless latency
MoCA packet loss < Wireless packet loss]]>Jan 30th 2009 3:02PM