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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[No, it's not going to go 7 knots on 1.5HP (which is what 1000W is). Even peak.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[why not the LS2LS7?]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 8:42PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[As long as there's enough juice to keep the beer cold and the tunes blasting...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[letstakeawalk]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:00PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[There better be coolers under those bench seats]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[rawdo9]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:07PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[My garage door opener is 1/2 HP and it can lift something pretty heavy.  A 1.5 HP motor should be able to push a boat.  The 7 knots might be in the full Sun with the wind at your back.  But, if they put a big propeller on it, with the high torque that electric motors put out, I don't see why it couldn't move at 7 knots (8 mph for you landlovers or 11 feet per second for the physicists).  They would also have to take into account the hydrodynamics of the pontoon design and how much weight was on the boat.<br><br>Then again, most people that use pontoons on lakes don't care how fast they go, and would rather not have to refuel it.  This would also make a great fishing boat if there are batteries for the morning.<br><br>When I retire to a lakeside home in Arizona, I'll be getting one of these.  Hopefully the price will have come down by then.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[rcappo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:15PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[rcappo - <br><br>I think you mean "landlubber," though yours is an easily made mistake.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[chispito]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:39PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[Actually, 1000w is 1.34 horsepower.  But that is not the point.  I'm sure it uses batteries.  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MegaBite]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:43PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[rcappo:<br>HP (or kW) is torque times speed. If you want more torque output to run that big propeller, you get less speed. It's a zero-sum game.<br><br>There's no free lunch.<br><br>I think perhaps some of you are forgetting how much energy it takes to move a vehicle through water. Try it yourself. Get on a bike, then try one of those pedal-powered paddle boats. You go 1/5th the speed on the boat and get twice as tired.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[why not the LS2LS7?]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 10:21PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[rcappo:<br>Your garage door is sprung so it isn't particularly heavy to lift. You can do it yourself with one hand.<br><br>And besides, it takes torque to open that door. You can have infinite torque with very low gearing. The question is, how quickly can your garage door opener open that door? That's what takes HP. Answer: it can't open or close the garage door very quickly.<br><br>The motors that open and close the roofs of retractable dome stadiums are only a few HP. But they can't do the job quickly, they have to do it slowly.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[why not the LS2LS7?]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 3rd 2009 2:10AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[thats not bad actually, I have no idea how fast a knot is, but the idea is cool and you wont go to far on a pontoon anyways. Thou im not a huge water fan, but Id go out ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[FILA]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 8:43PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[1 Knot = 1.85 Kph = 1.15 Mph<br><br>or for this electric floater.<br><br>7 Knots = 12.96 Kph = 8 Mph, which is quite good for what you'd use it for. This would make a really stable fishing platform for lakes and estuaries. Electric too, great for sneaking up on unsuspecting Barramundi, not sure what you guys in the US would fish for though!<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MrNuclear]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 3rd 2009 12:35AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[This would be awesome to motor around in.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[sip]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 8:54PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[roughly 15 feet of solar panels = thousands of dollars]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Major4Play]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 8:55PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[$4200, to be precise. I just priced it.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[morcheeba]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 10:15PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[Just like Chuck Norris, the fish won't hear this coming.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[█■█▐▌]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 8:58PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[with development, i could see this being at least feasible.  <br><br><br>i imagine there's a decent amount of surface area on the roof of the boat.  after all, with solar, surface area's the name of the game. :)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[a ham sandwich]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:01PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[So, where's the place I kick Boba Fett off of?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[ZombieRace]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:04PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[Uh, aptera didn't design this solar-electric boat, the designer of the aptera did!<br><br>J]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:13PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[Eh, J.<br>I'd like to suggest you go back to school and learn to read properly, as that IS what the article says;<br>"the Aptera design team (Eleven) has unveiled this solar-powered boat,"<br>That said, I personally think it would read better as;<br>"the Aptera design team, Eleven, have unveiled this solar-powered boat,"<br><br>But that's probably just me.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[dervheid]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 3rd 2009 3:07AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[i interviewed for 11 once and they did not hire me; and they waited over a month to let me know.<br><br>which can only mean that they are all morons and this thing will sink faster than a polish submarine (the one with screen doors).]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[oneMadRssn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:08PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[oneMadRssn,<br><br>Really?  you interviewed with them?  I don't think so.  In fact, I know so.<br><br>J]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:15PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[I did.  They had snowboard bindings and other plastic crap all over the walls.  Downtown Boston, near South Station.  Some guy tight jeans interviewed me.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[oneMadRssn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:18PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[Wrong eleven.  Go to designby11.com to get it right.<br><br>J]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:23PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[Use the reply-button, brah.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[nate]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:42PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[get it right?  i don't see any difference; apparently all 11's are full of d-bags.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[oneMadRssn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 3rd 2009 12:17AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[So you're going to drive it with only a steering wheel? I don't see an instrument panel, UNSAFE!!!!!!!!<br><br>also, can you lie out nude on the panels?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[smashe01]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:26PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[Pontoon boats go fast these days.  This won't go anywhere.  <br><br>Fail<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[andy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 9:30PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[will cost a loonie.<br><br>(Canada what?!)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[s.sahmad]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 3rd 2009 1:20AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA["we're hoping they're not thousands of dollars"<br><br>Well it's a BOAT, a pontoon BOAT, but a BOAT never the less. And for the uninitiated BOAT is an acronym; it stands for Bring Out Another Thousand. And this BOAT will cost many thousands.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[datashadow]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 10:02PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[call me simple-minded, but i'm still amused by the idea of running things in water on electricity]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[mrcarmine]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 11:18PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[General Dynamics would like to have a word with you...<br><br><a href="http://www.gdeb.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gdeb.com/</a><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[letstakeawalk]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 2nd 2009 11:54PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[The electric boats are really great on rivers that ought to be quiet, like the (upriver) Thames. Think it was a few years ago I saw the first electric launches - they go fast enough (don't know what the speed limit is in the river, but it's not much), they look great (traditional varnished wood style) and they're nearly silent. Of course, these weren't solar-powered (as far as I know - maybe the owners set up a solar charging station back at base - but probably not, this is england and we don't have sun). They're about big enough to carry a few people and a picnic...<br><br>If you've got a lot of money and you want to flash it, that's the way to go - in style. Not with an enormous-arse boat that makes a horrible noise and stinks up the area...<br><br>As for this one, it looks fine, I wonder how long you have to charge it for and how much range you get... also duh the price will be well over a thousand, I would assume over $10k too...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[sam]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 3rd 2009 7:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[I've always wanted to drive a boat from the shitter.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[bernardino]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 3rd 2009 1:53AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[In Poland we have this boat real<br><a href="http://www.pablik.pl/index.php/264/solar-lodz-pasazerska-zasilana-energia-sloneczna.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pablik.pl/index.php/264/solar-lodz-pasazerska-zasilana-energia-sloneczna.html</a><br><br>;) look..<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 3rd 2009 3:16AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[A three hour tour...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[strider_mt2k]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 3rd 2009 6:33AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[As a former Florida resident, I can tell you that regular pontoon boats with 10 horsepower gasoline engines sometimes cannot move against a stiff oncoming breeze. I would not want to use this thing on anything bigger than a pond at a golf course.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[BdgBill]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 3rd 2009 7:31AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[It's cool, but I have a 30' pontoon with a 90HP Mercury on it, it is fast enough to pull two tubers or skiers. It has a kick ass 6 speaker stereo/cd/mp3/ipod player and built in coolers for the brewskis. I have no desire to top out at 8mph, but still this is pretty cool.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[eric]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 3rd 2009 9:26AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Aptera designers unveil solar-powered pontoon, the Loon]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/02/aptera-designs-solar-powered-pontoon/</guid><description><![CDATA[A typical new 20 foot pontoon runs in the $13,000-14,000 range, nearly half of which is the engine (ex. a 40 HP 4 stroke Mercury outboard).<br><br>The Loon will probably be less, but not much less (I disgree with poster above that says it's $4200.00).]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Feb 7th 2009 6:55PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
