http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/ Engadget Comments for HP's exclusive Mobile Internet Ubuntu skin not so exclusive anymore http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/Feb 13th 2009 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/Feb 13th 2009 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/
A lot of people just look at something cheaper from Dell, that's running the exact same operating system, and say, why the heck should I pay more for HP?

]]>Feb 13th 2009 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/
really? Looking at their marketshare, i'd say the strategy works just fine]]>Feb 13th 2009 8:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/
]]>Feb 13th 2009 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/The reason they all use Windows is buying huge amounts of OEM windows licenses is significantly cheaper than developing a brand new OS yourself, and why invest that kind of money in something that is open source and you can't patent.
Same argument about cost applies with macs too I have mac os running in a tri-boot with Win7 and Vista on my own build PC, why should I pay extra for a mac ? XBench puts my £250 system between a MacbookPro & an iMac, the reason for paying more again ?]]>Feb 13th 2009 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/
MS makes double the profit compared to their gross as Apple as does, according to their last financial statements.

Why share uninformed opinions Paul, still not got a job yet ?]]>Feb 13th 2009 9:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/
This is the primary reason why companies like Psystar shouldn't be allowed to clone Macs. They're basically robbing Apple of their hardware sales without having paid anything to develop the OS.

]]>Feb 13th 2009 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/Maybe Apple should sell their OS then?]]>Feb 13th 2009 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/Can you provide any facts to back up your assertations? Here are the facts:

http://www.dvhardware.net/article32660.html
Global Market Share, Q4 2008
HP: 19.1% (+0.4%)
Dell: 13.2% (-1.0%)
Acer: 12.3% (+2.8%)
Lenovo: 7.1% (-0.4%)
Toshiba: 4.7% (+0.8%)

HP not only leads, but grew market share.

HP
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3AHPQ
Q4 Total Revenue $33,603.00M
Q4 Net profit margin 6.29%

http://www.google.com/finance?q=Dell
Q4 Total Revenue $15,162.00M
Q4 Net profit margin 4.79%

I could not find detailed 10-Q filings on either company for Q4 of 2008, so numbers cannot be broken out for how much revenue desktops and mobile devices provide. Neither disclosed net profits on those two business units in past filings.

Based upon these facts, how did you draw your conclusion? Anecdotal evidence is lacking, so please point us to some metrics.]]>Feb 13th 2009 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/Feb 13th 2009 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/Feb 14th 2009 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/Feb 13th 2009 8:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/I don't think it should even ship gcc.]]>Feb 13th 2009 9:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/Feb 13th 2009 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/Feb 13th 2009 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/isn't the differences that make everything better, you know competing concepts.
HP MediaStyle application, is just Elisa
I looked though and the forum

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1021351&page=5
#42 is the Harbour-Launcher Installation instructions, sweet I'm going to try this soon, though I'm sure the novelty will where off in a week. ]]>Feb 13th 2009 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/- OpenOffice breaks the output when you use more than basic text and markup. Formulas turn up messed up. The open-source myth of OO doesn't hold up, there are only a few dozen people working on it for the moment and they're from Sun. Once the polish is done nobody's interested in it and bugs remain unresolved. Opening and closing OO documents over a period of a few hours leaves behind memory which isn't cleaned up.
- Java/C++ programming: the only programming environment which is not from the 80's on Ubuntu is netbeans. I tried the 6.x versions a couple of times, but these just grind the system to a halt. The 5.x worked fine until you write something bigger than a "hello world" ... once the cache gets consumed the system crumbles
- wifi constantly breaking
- tons of stable API's ? You've never programmed something that uses sound/mouse, have you? Oh wait, let me guess ... you're relying on those wrapperclasses? Have fun debugging in a few months.

And please don't bother typing "give it time". I've been on Linux & Unix systems for about 12 years. They're always lagging behind a few years. There's zero innovation, everything which is considered groundbraking is copied from other systems or brought in by the corporate world.
]]>Feb 13th 2009 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/
I haven't used Linux quite as long as you have (I started using Linux on and off at around 2002-ish), but I have used many distributions over the years. It's not refreshing to see that many annoying, and obvious issues still remain that should have been fixed years ago. You would think that in the year 2009, all Linux distros would be able to properly detect your resolution. But no, and the worst part is, with MANY distributions, if you try to use the GUI to resize your resolution, it won't let you go any bigger than 800x600. I mean, you would THINK that by NOW, they would allow the user to choose screen resolution sizes that "might" go outside the bounds of the display just in case the X server was not capable of properly detecting the resolution, but NO. You need to edit the xorg.conf file and manually add the entries in.

I too, also experience the "automatic updates disabled yet still runs" problem in more than one Linux distribution.

With regards to programming, honestly, I don't know how developers even make Linux applications. Linux has the worst selection of IDE's available. I found that Eclipse sucks the least out of all of them. I have yet to see an IDE on Linux match Visual Studio in terms of performance, stability, features, and ease of use. KDevelop tries to mimmick VS, but the interface is very clunky and is easy to get lost in.

Ultimately, I have to agree. Just about everything in Linux (with few exceptions) have been done before by other operating systems, and have been done better.]]>Feb 13th 2009 10:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/
Wow... nice.]]>Feb 13th 2009 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/hps-exclusive-mobile-internet-ubuntu-skin-not-so-exclusive-anym/Feb 13th 2009 3:04PM