http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/I guess Android has a long way to go to have market penetration.]]>Feb 16th 2009 7:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/
The most exciting thing for me was the news of the HTC Magic (possibly) being released in Europe. This may mean that it actually will be released via T-mobile in the states sometime this year.

Why arent' more phone makers jumping on a free, open OS?]]>Feb 16th 2009 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/
Because its easier, quicker and everything is already there for you. You can pump out phone after phone in quick succession, just look at LGs promise to deliver 50 handsets by 2012.]]>Feb 16th 2009 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/
Microsoft has more money to throw at vendors?]]>Feb 16th 2009 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 9:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/ I think it does, since some people seem to have it up their a55es.
/joke

Sorry for that, but you just left it for pickup.

Seriously, I don't think there's a real do-all, fit-all, whatever-all in any product, even less in OS territory. UI design can be changed and perfected but core functionality not only has to be solid, it has to be «predictable» as well as documented. Android it's portrayed as an excellent environment for programming, but it's really young. Apple's iPhone OS is better acknowledged, by adopting pre-existing languages inside OSX, therefore opening the platform for their fellas, but then again: it's just one device.

Windows Mobile can perform better or worse, it depends on modding, tweaking, etc. There's a lot of tinkering inside and can be refurbished entirely. Certain actual shells can perform feats that are as iPhone-worthy as the next, and even reduce to almost none interaction with the WinMo's old and 90's styled interface.

But, of course, that needs a special kind of user to be true.

I'll wait and see the WebOS, which is kind of fun since in spanish webos is the way you pronounce «huevos» (eggs, which is used to describe a man's balls) so we Latins could say «Este Palm va a tener unos huevos barbaros!!» (this Palm will have a lot of balls)]]>Feb 16th 2009 10:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/
Once it's feature complete and relatively bug-free, I'm sure more manufacturers will join the party.]]>Feb 17th 2009 3:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 17th 2009 5:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/
Why are you all so excited to run ad-ware on your phones? What about having Google search adn index all of your text messages is so freaking appealing? There's no reason to think that Google is any more capabale at mobile OS software than, RIM, Apple, Microsoft or anyone else. They only thing they are better at is search alogrithims and advertising.]]>Feb 17th 2009 5:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 7:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 8:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/What's with Idou being vapor-y? What is your basis for that assumption? What are you, paid by the goverment to advertise american stuff only?
And DEAR GOD, WM 6.5 dubbed "lagOS" is going to be available by the Q4, that's like a year from now, how on earth is that any kind of a win?
I own a Touch Diamond, and I kinda like WinMo, but let's be realistic...]]>Feb 16th 2009 8:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4HQvKVVYi0]]>Feb 16th 2009 9:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/
Idou and OmniaHD still own this year's MWC though.]]>Feb 16th 2009 9:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/
Face it, the iPhone is really dated at this point. Innovative in its day, sure, but take a look at it now:

- It's half-VGA resolution is basically second tier now that all the cool kids are doing full or wide VGA
- It's lack of a physical keyboard has always been a drawback for business users
- It's lack of certain basics like tethering, MMS, and autofocus, is just pathetic in this day and age

I hope Apple has something up its sleeve for this year or next, because pretty soon even the kiddie crowd will start looking elsewhere for their next phone/toy.]]>Feb 16th 2009 10:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/people may want a powerful business phone, but i wouldn't go so far to say that the iphone is "really dated". its still decent.



and why have no other phones came out with capacative screens, i know they take asia into consideration, but still it can be done. I think i can only name two, the iphone and the g1. ]]>Feb 17th 2009 12:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/
I know that was flamebait, but I can't resist.

I almost laughed out loud since I sell these products everyday and hear so many business users glow over the iPhone's features, interface, and best-on-the-market web browser. No, Opera Mobile isn't better, even on a battery-chugging beast like the Touch Pro.
I see people ditch their Blackberries daily and not look back.

Tethering, MMS, autofocus?! While these features would be nice, they're more of an afterthought since most business users have aircards for mobile internet, email will one day replace MMS, and autofocus doesn't help a plastic lensed phone camera.

Look at the competion. Windows Mobile, no matter how many nuclear powered bricks you run it on, just plain sucks. It's a jumbled terror to navigate for daily use. I used it for a year and was ready to through that device out the window. Blackberries are very nice. They have lots of useful features and the interface is quick and efficient to navigate. That said, they lack horsepower. With all the java action going on, apps don't have the low level hardware access they need to give a rich experience. The web browser (and by extension, html email) is weak. The iPhone has an elegant interface, tons of horsepower, and practical everyday uses. Hell, I'd love background apps, copypasta, push notifications, MMS, ect. But truthfully, the iPhone wins even without these features.

I've used the Blackberry Bold, HTC Touch Pro, and iPhone. The iPhone is what I carry.

]]>Feb 17th 2009 2:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 17th 2009 8:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 7:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 7:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 7:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/1) A Dell Phone
2) SPB Mobile Shell 3.0]]>Feb 16th 2009 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWzppakWPLI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2AOukFSz5o]]>Feb 16th 2009 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/
What I want to know is where are all the Nvidia Tegra handsets and mids, it has been a year since they showed us the working technology, c'mon I want one asap. I managed after much searching to find more info at this site:

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2009/02/closeup_view_of_nvidias_tegra_wmc.html

They say Nvidia have a handheld Android prototype that was on display.

Come on Engadget give us some video demos and more info on Nvidia Tegra.

Hope to see this Toshiba with Qualcomm Snapdragon tomorrow, that thing is pooowerful.]]>Feb 16th 2009 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Vid of nVidia's Booth : http://www.mobinaute.com/258162-videonaute-presentation-nvidia-tegra-puce-anti-iph.html]]>Feb 16th 2009 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/
In addition there is the whole tie into Google with Andriod, which requires that you basically have a google account. While Windows Mobile does encourage you to use Hotmail/Windows Live or Exchange, you are more than free to set your primary email account to AOL/Yahoo/gMail etc... From the get go it is more customizable. I think to seriously try to beat the Windows ecosystem, people need to develop something that isn't so tied down. But the only revenue Google can see from Android is not thru licenses like Windows Mobile but thru potential use of Google services plastered with adverts.]]>Feb 16th 2009 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/
What I'm saying is that Android has a ton of untapped potential that no one seems to be desiring to harness on a large scale.]]>Feb 16th 2009 8:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/
While I'll NEVER use an iShit I will be considering something else this fall unless something drastic happens on the Android front]]>Feb 16th 2009 9:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 10:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 17th 2009 3:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 17th 2009 3:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 17th 2009 5:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 8:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 9:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/
3" or larger WVGA capacitve touch Screen
3 to 5 Megapixel Camera with flash and video
3.5 mm headphone jack
Mini-usb charge and sync
hot swappable flash memory
stereo bluetooth

This should be an obvious set of requirements....

]]>Feb 16th 2009 8:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 17th 2009 5:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/mwc-day-one-the-empire-strikes-back/Feb 16th 2009 8:11PM