http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/ Engadget Comments for TiVo and DISH / Echostar head back to Texas for another patent duel http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/Feb 18th 2009 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/
This is how capitalism works. Patents are as valuable as gold and lead to companies spending billions on research and development. If that "gold" is worth "fools gold", you won't see huge leaps in technology. Everyone will just slowly add-on to the previous technology.]]>Feb 18th 2009 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/
Actually I don't care Comcast FTW.]]>Feb 18th 2009 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/Feb 18th 2009 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/Mar 28th 2009 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/
It's Texarkana.

Also, how is Dish software different from Comcast, Charter, Verizon, ATT, and Time Warner DVR software?
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Most companies see the writing on the wall that DVR = Tivo. If you want to be able to pause live TV and rewind, then you will have to pay your dues to Tivo. Period.]]>Feb 18th 2009 10:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/Feb 18th 2009 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/Feb 18th 2009 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/Feb 18th 2009 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/Feb 18th 2009 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/
Sure, monopolies are bad, but it's not like DISH/Echostar customers really have much choice in the DVR they use anyway. If you're going to limit your customers to only one DVR option, it might as well be a good one.]]>Feb 18th 2009 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/Feb 18th 2009 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/Feb 18th 2009 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/
I could see fancy software being required to handle two different digital streams simultaneously on a single tuner. But first they need to come up with a way to have the two tuners on a single dish feed. Then I will be able to have four tuners in the same box without needing four separate coax lines outside to the dish. You know, like how cable does it? One line regardless of how many boxes you stick on it?

Unfortunately, some companies are allowed to "patent" stuff that they didn't create, and then to do so in the broadest terms so everybody else is violating the new patent.]]>Feb 18th 2009 3:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/Feb 18th 2009 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/Feb 18th 2009 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/I think that instead ofyou concentrating on lawsuits and the likes. You should concentrate on how to expand
your services. You revolutinized the way we watch TV OK WE GET IT. You help us set recording from anywhere
but man did you miss the point about how to watch tv anywhere. I think if you would have purchased SLINGMEDIA a tivo would def be the box to have.

I mean look @ the motto it would have been.

Watch yout TV ANYTIME. SET RECORDINGS FROM ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD & NOW WATCH YOUR TIVO ANYWHERE.

I hate the fact that I have to have another box on top of my tivo box.And boy do they need to work on their software.
With current interfaces when i use my tivo i feel like i stpped back into 1999.]]>Feb 18th 2009 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/Feb 18th 2009 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/
I completely agree that effort should be focused on improving the technology primarily. Tivo already has a very strong brand image in the US, giving them an instant advantage over their competition.

Besides, software patents are just plain wrong. They strike me as being relics from an age where courts didn't understand the implications of their descisions when it came to digital intellectual property, and I can't think of a single reason for them not to be abolished.

I'm opposed to copyright and "Intellectual Property" generally but software patents are particularly ridiculous. Remember Microsoft's patent on the double click (http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2004/06/63707) anyone?

I say, people were recording one channel whilst watching another when VCRs first became available, making it novel and unique twenty years ago. It doesn't matter how your software implements this functionality; you didn't invent anything new.]]>Feb 18th 2009 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2009-01/slingloaded-dish-vip-922-details/

Yeah, someone other than TiVo had the foresight to make that call, Frank. It was Charlie Ergen.]]>Feb 18th 2009 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/
Take a license. Everybody's doing it. Don't you want to be cool like everyone else?

Thanks,

Patent attorney

Dear Michael:

The patent relates to the ability to simultaneously record and watch the same program. e.g., recording the first 10 minutes of a show, starting to watch the show from the beginning while the show continues to record, and then fast-forwarding the commercials to catch up to live TV. Last I checked VCR's couldn't pull that off, and even dual-tuner boxes use that protocol for watching a single program on one of the tuners. So if you can find a device capable of doing that prior to July of 1998, here is my free advice of the day: 1) keep it to yourself. 2) go get a lawyer. 3) Contact Dish. 4) Collect millions of dollars from Dish for finding what the countless millions they've already spent couldn't.

Thanks,

Patent attorney]]>Feb 18th 2009 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/Feb 18th 2009 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/18/tivo-and-dish-echostar-head-back-to-texas-for-another-patent-d/
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