http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/...I don't bother with a game until it'll run in some emulator. I played Zelda for the first time last year.]]>Feb 19th 2009 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/is it the lower resolution that you prefer or perhaps you prefer the
the lack of customization
the lower framerates
the lack of sufficient AA and almost nonexistent AF
the lack of more game-types such as MMORPG's, RTS's, proper FPS's, Sim's
the pathetic control scheme when it comes to FPS's
the limited multiplayer with usually half the number of players and options as on the PC versions
the longer loading times and the need to have the disc in the drive to play 99% of the titles
the lacking hardware add-ons such as professional-class racing wheels for racing sims and joysticks for flight sims

Well?
Which is it?
I mean, let's forget the fact that PC's get most of the major titles that come out for consoles as well, at least for the X360 and PS3, and that we run them far better than any of the consoles.
Let's also forget the fact that we do have tons of exclusives that may not get as much media attention but are still respected by the community by and large:

You want your EXCLUSIVES, here are your EXCLUSIVES:
http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/games-of-2009/]]>Feb 19th 2009 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/
Plus building a compatible gaming PC ($700+) will be more expensive than buying a PS3 ($400). PS3 here is a good deal even for a casual gamer/geek.]]>Feb 19th 2009 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/
If you are saying consoles ARE better because of the exclusives for consoles, you have obviously never really looked into it. The PC as a gaming platform may have few "mainstream" exclusives such as shooters (which it does have as well. Recent ones include Crysis and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.) but there is also a huge number of games which as a console gamer you have probably never heard of. X3: Reunion for example is a very, very complicated space-sim which is only on PC. Not to mention all of the indie games which show up on the PC. There has always been far more innovation on the PC than on consoles as well because anyone with enough programming knowledge can make a game for the PC. With consoles you have to buy a rather expensive Dev-kit.

Then of course there is the fact that FPSs and RTSs play better with a keyboard/mouse than a gamepad (and anyone who trys to tell you otherwise probably has never really tried it with a keyboard/mouse), and the PC is capable of producing FAR superior graphics.

Also, because of not needing a dev-kit, games on PC tend to be considerably cheaper, which I suppose makes up a little for the hardware being so expansive (although other than my graphics card, everything else I would have even if I didn't game, so...)]]>Feb 19th 2009 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/
XBox is even a better deal at $200+]]>Feb 19th 2009 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/
Likes the ability to play sitting on the couch in his living room.
Enjoys using his HDTV for more than Movies and TV.
Doesn't need a surround sound system for his home theatre and his office to enjoy the best possible sound on movies and games.
Would rather not worry about wether or not his video card is compatible with the most recent games.
Doesn't want to wait through install times and would rather have an instant on experience.
Sees a $300 console as a better value than a $700-$7000 computer.
Isn't interested in MMO's or RTS's, but enjoys a wide range of platformers and FPS's.


You may feel that console gaming is inferior, but there are many reasons that people choose a console over a gaming computer.]]>Feb 19th 2009 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Sure you can buy a PS3 for £299 (UK prices sorry) but then you realy need to buy a HD tv for it also, or factor in the cost that you purchased one already. Otherwise, without a tv, where are you?
So that is another £499 at least for a decent 37" TV.
Also a Home Cinema System to hear the glorious dolby sounds £149-£299.
You get one controller with your console so another £30 at least for a second for a friend.
To play online with your xbox that will be £40 a year.
I built my whole pc for £800, including a 22" monitor and a 5.1 speaker set up.
That in my opinion and many others, gives you a lot more for your money. And games are cheaper on pc and often can use better graphic settings. (GTA IV excluding)
I also have an xbox 360 and love it. But my PC has given me more hours of gaming entertainment than it since i got them both 2 years ago.]]>Feb 19th 2009 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/
That $700 gaming PC can be used for almost an infinite number of purposes.
The $400 PS3 can be used for a handful at best.]]>Feb 19th 2009 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/So he prefers consoles to PCs for gaming? Thats fine, as long as he (I assume you're talking about Patriks7 here) doesn't try to claim that they are definitivelly better. Sure, you might already have a cheap PC for doing internet, email and office type work, and so a console is more cost effective. Yes a living room can be more comfortable to game in. Yes, many people prefer the "instant on" of console games (no installs - although if you're really too lazy to wait for a game to install then you've got problems).

On value though it's all relative. If you're buying/building a new computer for general use, all you really have to add to the cost of that is a graphics card (and maybe a better processor and a little more ram) so really the price difference is negligable, especially when you take into account the TV (with the PC you're getting most of it anyway, with the console, you're getting the TV anyway). Oh and "Isn't interested in MMO's or RTS's, but enjoys a wide range of platformers and FPS's." well sorry to burst you bubble there, but FPSs work better on PCs in almost every respect than on consoles. Platformers though are really about the same, and most aren't on PC so you've a point there.

I personally prefer the PC gaming community as well. It may seem a little snob-ish but because of it's price there are far fewer kids who play on PC (thier parents may be willing to spens the $300 on a console, but not on an entire gaming rig) so PC gamers tend to be older, less trash-talking people (also a reason why the PSN community is a little better than LIVE, again because of the cost). Disregarding most MMOs of course, which usually run on anything.

Also, I don't think anyone actually said (although it was implied a few times) that PC gaming is better.I must point out again though that most of this is OPINION, not fact. You can argue about this stuff for all eternity, and neither side will win. You can prove that the PC is capable of the best graphics etc, and that console gaming tends to be more social (again MMOs asside), but it's all just opinion as to which suits you better. To me it's PC > PS3 > 360 > Wii but that's not to say that the Wii is bad or that the PC is all powerful, it just suits me better.]]>Feb 19th 2009 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/
You need to get layed... bad...]]>Feb 19th 2009 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/
^^^^ You are the man... put him in his place lol]]>Feb 19th 2009 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/
"I personally prefer the PC gaming community as well. It may seem a little snob-ish but because of it's price there are far fewer kids who play on PC (thier parents may be willing to spens the $300 on a console, but not on an entire gaming rig) so PC gamers tend to be older, less trash-talking people (also a reason why the PSN community is a little better than LIVE, again because of the cost). Disregarding most MMOs of course, which usually run on anything."

contradict yourself much? you say the PC gaming community is better because its more expensive/higher prices... and then you say the PSN community is better than LIVE because "of the cost".... LIVE cost 6 bucks a month.. PSN = Free... uhhh, please read over your comments b4 writing them =P]]>Feb 19th 2009 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/It might not have better graphics, it might be slower, it might not have better sound, but console games will play on consoles. Theres no questions whether it will play or not.
]]>Feb 19th 2009 7:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/
red just continues the trend. congrats ms, youve not surprised anyone.]]>Feb 19th 2009 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/
I beg to differ.

http://media.techeblog.com/images/redps3_2.jpg
http://www.2dayblog.com/images/2008/june/red_ps2_1.jpg]]>Feb 19th 2009 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.buy.com/prod/xbox-360-limited-edition-red-accessory-kit-includes-red-wireless/q/loc/108/208455011.html]]>Feb 19th 2009 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/
why cant people just like console games and people like pc games?

my pc is used for storing music, and videos to stream to my xbox and to use the internet

maybe i should buy a PC and then have to buy a 300 dollar video card every couple years and new power supplies and ways to keep the thing from running at 100 degress Celsius...

of course in the grand scheme of things a PC is a more powerful and you get benefits, but it costs money and time to keep a PC up and running all the time.. i bought an xbox 3 ? years ago, whenever launch was.. and it sits in the same spot and keeps working like a charm.

It all evens out, its like sitting here arguing that basketball is better then hockey

"if you want to just shoot at a hoop all day, so be it, ill just sit here and shoot rubber pucks at some red poles with a net in it"

"would you rather buy 1 console every 6 years and play games with like 16 of your friends, or have to buy new ram, and video cards every couple years to play the best games with 1231029 people"]]>Feb 19th 2009 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/red-xbox-360-mentioned-in-pr-is-probably-real/Feb 19th 2009 1:19PM