http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/ Engadget Comments for Cheaper Blu-ray? Sony, Panasonic, and Philips say it's coming, honestly http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
The moment this gets rolling, Apple is on-board. Hooray!]]>Feb 25th 2009 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
the $9.50 and $14 are just the licensing fees built-into the overall cost of the player/burner.]]>Feb 25th 2009 4:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
Those costs are for the licensing of the technology, not the finalized products themselves. ]]>Feb 25th 2009 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
Driving to the store and driving to the Blockbuster / Redbox, ect... are the same- no?]]>Feb 25th 2009 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
Here's a novel concept, I buy AND rent movies. I buy the blu-ray/DVD of the movies I really like and rent the ones I haven't seen or just have a passing interest in.

I love having an large collection of movies that I can reference at a moments notice. Let's say a friend comes over and we decide it might be fun to watch, let's say "Boogie Nights". I can just pull it out. No driving to the store, hoping it's in stock or waiting 2 days to get it from Netflix. And again, I NEVER pay $30 for a Blu-Ray. I can find what I want for anywhere from $10 to $20.

And as much as I like Netflix you don't ALWAYS get the movies you want when you want them. I've been waiting for "Into the Wild" on Blu-Ray for nearly a month now.

You seem to not be able to grasp the idea that not everyone is exactly like you. There are plenty of good reasons to own a movie. Maybe it's not important to you but it's important to plenty of other people. ]]>Feb 25th 2009 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
anyways, 40% of a single thing not the entire device is lackluster i mean where going to see blu ray players drop from $400 to $385 will retailers even pass on those discounts?]]>Feb 26th 2009 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
until then people can get them for $150, but still get raped paying $40 for a movie.]]>Feb 25th 2009 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
Their getting there. Keep the price of movies down. ]]>Feb 25th 2009 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
cannot justify me buying a player... and then I would need a HD tv to play it on... he he he...]]>Feb 25th 2009 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
Rent your Blu-ray disks, it's a hell of a lot cheaper.]]>Feb 25th 2009 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
How smart is that?]]>Feb 25th 2009 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
You pay $30 for a brand new Blu-ray disk OR you pay $18 a month for a 3 movie a month with Netflix's Blu-ray service. You can watch probably 10-15 movies a month if you're diligent about returning them.

I mean, how hard is it to get to the mailbox at noon and dumping in some red pamphlets? For the money you save, you could re-rent that single movie a dozen times and keep watching it as much as you want.

I use GameFly and Netflix and haven't bought a game or movie in months, yet I still see the newest releases within 3-4 days of them coming out and have played brand new games within a week. Hell, I'll have Star Ocean: The Last Hope by the 27th, one day after it's released.]]>Feb 25th 2009 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
Except, what if you only want to watch 6 movies in a given year? For BD, that's the equivalent to $15/mo, and you keep the movies forever. Now, that model is a better deal, and Netflix would appear to rip you off. Your lifestyle is not the standard, I'm afraid.]]>Feb 25th 2009 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 26th 2009 12:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 26th 2009 1:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Guess what, I bought the DVD version. By the way for those who buy bootleg blu-ray in the Far East, know that you are not buying real blu-ray, its a middle ground actually the disks are on AVCHD standards -- readable by blu-ray player, and this is the best part, you cannot tell the difference.

When standards exceed our ability to perceive the difference there's not much point in buying that standard

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However this adds to other savings to help manufacturers reduce price - most notably, when Blu-ray launched, you actually needed pretty damn fast and expensive processors/custom chips to do all the decoding etc. By now, presumably the capable chips are much smaller/cheaper and probably more integrated etc.

So cheaper Blu-ray players are certainly coming but this is only part of the reason.

Eventually DVD players will not even be manufactured because the difference in price will become so small there's no point, but it might take a few more years to get there...]]>Feb 25th 2009 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
Reading comprehension ftw. The license fee for companies would only be $14. The fact that it said 11 cents a disc didn't tell you that you read it wrong? :(]]>Feb 25th 2009 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
Grip boy, in that context, can be construed to mean all sorts of things. Just saying.]]>Feb 25th 2009 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
I never even started with Blu-Ray since I knew the DRM was going to be a nightmare. It has not got any better yet has it?

It's one thing to complain about fair use and backups, its quite another to not even be able to play something when you get it home from the store.]]>Feb 25th 2009 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
But that's the problem. A lot of non-tech people have a problem with the firmware upgrade process. I know that when they update it and start shipping new movies that require a firmware update that my dad is going to blow a gasket. This is one reason I have no desire to purchase a dedicated player. I'm not jumping in until their is a highly reliable way to rip BR and play it back on a media PC. ]]>Feb 25th 2009 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/Feb 25th 2009 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
The DRM really is burdensome on the PC. I will gladly circumvent it when a cheap/free solution arrives. ]]>Feb 25th 2009 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
I don't think your average engadget reader would have a problem, as we all likely do stuff like this on a daily basis.]]>Feb 25th 2009 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
You obviously live in a world of your own. The rest of us have to deal with people on a regular basis that can't even connect to a wireless access point without the install disk or a 100$ visit from the geek squad.

You and I are the EXCEPTION, not the RULE.

Most people have no idea how to burn a DVD with a firmware downloaded from the internet, or even what a firmware is. For the vast majority of all customers, that firmware will say the same version it was when it was delivered to the store. When Spiderman 3 does not play in a device WITHOUT a firmware upgrade, the device is effectively "broken" to the consumer. They don't know what to do at that point, and some of them are smart enough to get an RMA. Others take it back to the store and complain loudly.

That's why DRM is a problem for Blu-Ray expanding. I object to DRM on principle, but I am bringing it up specifically to address why Blu-Ray has slowed down in it's adoption.

My father talks to other people. People talk to each other. Nothing new there right? When you have millions of people relating stories about how their Blu-Ray movie purchases are not playing in the players, it creates the perception that it's a crap shoot. Maybe this movie I bought at Costco will play? Maybe not?

That kind of ambiguity and bad blood out there is certainly affecting new sales of players, creation of new customers, and retention (more movie sales) of old customers.]]>Feb 25th 2009 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/We've all had experiences of manufacturers dropping support for "old" models and only supporting the new. This would be a disaster for a blu-ray player dependant on continuous firmware updates - making it as obsolete as hddvd players.]]>Feb 25th 2009 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/cheaper-blu-ray-sony-panasonic-and-phillips-say-its-coming/
Modern day upscaling DVD players do a great job. It's amazing how great the (relatively new) movies look when upscaled from DVD to 1080p. Really, I enjoy watching DVDs on my 42" 1080p TV now. And I am not very fond of spending $20+ for BD movies even though I have a Blu-Ray player.

Get us cheap BD movies, then we will see! Until then, Netflix and online streaming are our friends.]]>Feb 25th 2009 4:08PM