http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
Blasphemy I say! Apples are perfect!]]>Mar 5th 2009 10:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Combined with Dell's crappy support, it's a horrible synergy.
I have furniture made out of repair return postal boxes. These four over here I have my whiteboard on, like a planning table of sorts..]]>Mar 5th 2009 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 10:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
It could be NVIDIA's fault for releasing a chip to early or it could be Apple's fault for pushing NVIDIA to mass produce a chip before it's really ready. Or a combo of the both.

I am just sick of this. It's not like this is the first laptop Apple's produced. Just do it right the first time. Not all press is good press....]]>Mar 5th 2009 10:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
This is almost not news, considering how notorious they are for doing things like these.

Sucks though, it looks like memory corruption or some kind of display signaling problem. That thing is integrated too, sucks to replace it...]]>Mar 5th 2009 10:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
Turn off your text to speech app and you don't have to hear me anymore.

I've been an Apple fan for awhile and an owner/ user for two years. I am tired of the pricing, lack of speedy updates, and issues. OS X is superior for my use but I can't justify buying the hardware anymore.

Wait till you spend your hard earned money ($3,000) on something that starts going bad within the first week of use.]]>Mar 5th 2009 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 11:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
This seems to be typical of the poor quality of Apple products in general - it's difficult to point to a single Apple product that doesn't have serious problems like this. The latest Cinema Displays have similar graphical issues and then there's the melting power adapters, mooing fans, discolouring cases, dodgy RAM, hit-and-miss trackpads, cracking iPhone cases, crap iPod headphones, expanding batteries, cracking hinges, overheating Macbooks, etc., etc. God only knows why anyone would pay a premium for such poor product design and you really have to wonder why sites like Engadget continue to push Apple's products when they are so badly made. Apple users are always banging on about how great Apple's customer service is and how happy Genius Bar staff are to replace faulty products but you have to ask why people are spending so much time returning their stuff in the first place.]]>Mar 6th 2009 4:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Squaretrade-888128.html
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Are you serious? That's an incredibly horrible thing I say. Only bad people deserve bad things to happen to them. Choosing Apple over Dell doesn't make anyone a bad person. ]]>Mar 6th 2009 7:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/nvidia-says-significant-quantities-of-laptop-gpus-are-defectiv/]]>Mar 6th 2009 7:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
Although you are correct that fanboys should have combustible accidents.]]>Mar 6th 2009 8:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/






(sorry had to do it)]]>Mar 5th 2009 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 10:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 10:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 10:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
marathon was a great game, so was starcraft. but seriously, macs cant even run steam natively. you shell out the 120% apple tax to buy a mac, then shell out another 50 to buy a copy of windows?

REALLY?]]>Mar 5th 2009 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
Inaccurate.

Macs do NOT natively run games.

Macs that you purchase a Microsoft WINDOWS license for now possess the capability to run games.

As kangbp.nyc pointed out, you guys are paying the ridiculous "Apple Tax" first of all, then shelling out at least another $100+ for a Windows license on top of that, just to play what we PC/Windows users get to play natively for hundreds upon several hundreds less and with better performance to boot.

]]>Mar 5th 2009 11:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/"macs cant even run steam natively"

That's because Gabe Newell's being a fucking dick about it. If he actually explained why Valve and Apple aren't cooperating rather than leaving a vague "we talk, they talk," maybe I'd be slightly more sympathetic.]]>Mar 6th 2009 12:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 6th 2009 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
You would do well to learn from your lesson in sarcasm so that the next time you comment you don't look so stupid.]]>Mar 6th 2009 9:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 6th 2009 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 11:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
I'm a long-time Mac user who thinks that it's Apple's fault. I just don't see how it could be Nvidia's card when the 15" MBP's screen suffers no such effect.]]>Mar 5th 2009 11:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 6th 2009 7:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 9:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
I have a unibody MBP 17" and it doesn't get hot at all. Even sitting on a blanket it barely gets warm. So I don't think it's heat problems. ]]>Mar 5th 2009 11:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
Have you tried turning it on again?]]>Mar 6th 2009 8:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 9:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 10:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/]]>Mar 5th 2009 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 11:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
But then my 7600GT had artifacts because it was just not made with possible cheap components ]]>Mar 6th 2009 12:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 6th 2009 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/
imo]]>Mar 5th 2009 9:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 10:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/05/nvidias-geforce-9600m-causing-issues-in-17-inch-macbook-pro/Mar 5th 2009 9:59PM