http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/ Engadget Comments for Electric TH!NK FROST concept vehicle makes snowmobiles cringe http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 13th 2009 1:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 13th 2009 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/
Otherwise I'd suggest to refrain pulling a meaningless comment out of your ass...]]>Mar 13th 2009 4:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 13th 2009 5:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 13th 2009 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 13th 2009 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 13th 2009 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/
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It's the same reason why they didn't put the disco ball in the middle of the battles in WW2. It is also why modern day tanks don't have a Nike swoosh on the sides.

Even though both of those would look hella cool. ]]>Mar 13th 2009 4:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 13th 2009 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 13th 2009 1:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/
This moron knows nothing about batteries.. just how to make something look cool. idiot.

This is a prime example of the internal combustion superiority. YOU WANT THE HEAT!]]>Mar 13th 2009 1:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/
Here's an old blog post by the Tesla guys. They ran the roadster at reasonably cold temperatures.
http://www.teslamotors.com/blog4/?p=55]]>Mar 13th 2009 2:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/
Anyway, traditional batteries are greatly affected by cold (such as lead acid car batteries). At freezing, they are only putting out 65% of the amperage as at 80 degrees. And at zero degrees fahrenheit, only 45%. But like SuperQ said, LiIon batteries are different, and engineers are creating even better ones in the lab with better features.

Also, that is why we have insulation, and use some juice to keep the batteries at a more optimal temperature. And while I don't think batteries are at a point right now to make this concept worth building (an IC engine would be a better fit right now), in 10 years the landscape will be quite different.]]>Mar 13th 2009 2:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/
Also, cred for the concept backgrounds. The new opera (1) fits right in with the concept.
1. http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/00654/_opera_tittel_jpg_654675g.jpg]]>Mar 13th 2009 1:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 13th 2009 1:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 13th 2009 1:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/
/Gets to glacier.

"ah finally got here. Oh look I need to charge the battery. Well time to plug in the ba....oh $%#@."
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They're Inuit now. No biggie. Just a heads up from Canada.

L.M.]]>Mar 13th 2009 1:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/
Th!nk makes a range of electric vehicles (as in actual production), and are opening a factory in the US.]]>Mar 13th 2009 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/
OnT: I hope Th!nk can ramp up production of something useful. The people in Oslo aren't in desperate need of snowmobiles, (or conseptual ones for that matter).
Oslo actually has the most electric cars per capita in the world. :)]]>Mar 16th 2009 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/
How in the world is anyone going to find the person should he/she gets stranded in this white vehicle?]]>Mar 13th 2009 1:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/
You know you are absolutely right. that is why I never use my battery powered hand warmers or socks or jump suit (battery powered warmer) when I go skiing or ice climbing. I mean heck there is no way to protect those batteries from the tropical environment of La Chaux-de-Fonds in Switzerland (which is colder than Siberia).

And as a mamby pamby foo foo Norwegian designer, how would he/she/they know anything about cold environments. This little puppy was/is designed for THINK...

Who wodda thunk it, aye...

Read the attached article before you make any judgements....
BOSFHs]]>Mar 13th 2009 1:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/
Concept and reality are 2 very difference things...

Foo, you Think! battery tech can power torque hungry tracks AND supply heat to keep the batteries AND occupants warm?


Yea enjoy your 45 minute run time...

Damn tree hugging whale kissing moon maidens,

Where is Richard Nixon's head when you need him... he got around to making sure that hippies like you get due unwarranted beatings...]]>Mar 13th 2009 2:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/
So obviously you know how to communicate effectively and I am sure that in "real life" you could kick some ass and not need Richard "who is dead" Nixon to do the job for you! Most especially since on this end you are going up against a former US Navy Seal team member. But you go for it you little phuque!

So, please tell me your technical expertise in cold use of batteries in Arctic or Antarctic environments. I bow to your superior use of grunts and knuckle dragging but I find your demeaning comments about someone whom you have no idea you are speaking truly indicative of your Neanderthal point of view. Oh, and by the way, they are all dead, too - except for you!

As for battery use in cold climates and this design - you must not live in a colds climate. There are ways to keep batteries functioning and warm without too much additional energy expended. But I don't want to confuse you with the facts. I'll just wait for the oil to deplete and watch you freeze you ass off...

Have you figured out what BOSFH means?
Didn't think so. ]]>Mar 13th 2009 5:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 13th 2009 1:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 13th 2009 1:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/
a) The tracks would need to be some really soft rubber for them to do such a tight corners in the triangle "wheels". That would mean that they would wear very fast and be pretty useless fast. I have no idea what the yellow things are, but I can see no function in them at all.
b) Why on earth it has turning front "wheels"? Why no just do as the tanks do: alter the speed and direction of rotation the tracks and the vehicle would turn. The current setup would, especially in high speed, be problematic as in turn the forces pushing the car forward would easily push the tracks off the "wheel".
c) the vehicle isn't structurally sound. c1) The "wheels" don't seem to be properly attached to the chassis. c2) there's no space for (tubular) frame to hold the body work up.

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Unfortunately, they tore the stock-off-the-lot truck apart as they were too hard on the suspension, so I lost them. Looked weird seeing it glide over the snow.

You need to be able to turn to go where you want - not being able to turn would mean you drive back & forth in s straight line!]]>Mar 13th 2009 4:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 13th 2009 4:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 13th 2009 4:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/I like to see.]]>Mar 13th 2009 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/

"the all-wheel drive contraption can lug two Eskimos around at a time"

How about room for that dead polar bear in the trunk? Or at least a rack for the narwhale tusk?]]>Mar 13th 2009 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.psfk.com/2008/08/working-concept-arctic-vehicle-by-lotus.html) or directly on the treads (like 'ski-doos').]]>Mar 13th 2009 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 14th 2009 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 14th 2009 11:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/13/electric-th-nk-frost-concept-vehicle-makes-snowmobiles-cringe/Mar 15th 2009 10:27PM