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More ARM netbooks is now a serious possibility.]]>Mar 15th 2009 5:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/The sooner that happens, the sooner people will see windows isn't the only Operating System in existense (just after we explain what an Operating system is of course) and the sooner Microsoft will start innovating rather than just making Shiny Stuff(TM)]]>Mar 15th 2009 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4]]>Mar 15th 2009 5:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Perhaps you've heard of the T-Mobile G1 which runs Android (a flavor of Linux)? or the Neo1973 from OpenMoko? Or any of the several Motorola phones that run Linux?

Linux based phones have been around for a few years.]]>Mar 15th 2009 8:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
And the openmoko is more of a dev tool/experiment. I mean it doesn't even have EDGE let alone 3g.]]>Mar 15th 2009 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=MTE2NTQ



CDMA SUX]]>Mar 15th 2009 6:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
Just saying

Back to the important stuff. Stable and usable builds of linux on devices such as the N800/810 can only lead to good things. Community based projects are and will always be light years ahead of companies in addressing issues and adding popular new features to an OS.]]>Mar 15th 2009 6:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 6:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
Although I am not sure why this is in an article which is neither about the iphone or phones in general. It does look very interesting, I wonder if it any faster than maemo is, I might give it a try later.]]>Mar 15th 2009 7:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/I'm sorry to contradict you, but the iphone does actually support HSDPA 3.6Mbps
Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_3g-2424.php]]>Mar 15th 2009 7:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 8:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
"Stable and usable builds of linux on devices such as the N800/810 can only lead to good things."

Uh... you do know that the N800 and N810 _come_ with a stable and usable build of Linux, right? It's their native OS. In this respect, this story isn't anything new. It's just a different (more popular) flavor of Linux that has been ported to them.

(and it's not the first "other flavor of Linux" ported to them, Android already has been shown running on them)]]>Mar 15th 2009 8:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
Actually, what makes the iPhone 'outdated' is ATT throttling down the networking speeds.]]>Mar 15th 2009 8:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
I know this is going to come as a shock to you, but (on good days) a simple majority of the stories on Engadget aren't Apple-related. This is one of them.]]>Mar 15th 2009 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
Buy a CDMA device and stop supporting inferior technology from the early 90s. By upgrading to a CDMA device you will get reliable 3G that doesn't suck down the battery in a blink of the eye.

See what I did there?

GSM was pushed through for the sake of pushing a standard through. CDMA's only weakness is, in 2G modes, it's slightly less power efficient than 2G GSM. But, it's got higher voice quality, better spectrum utilization, and IIRC it's simpler to deploy on the carrier end (meaning, for example, in a disaster area, Verizon and Sprint can deploy trucks with cell towers on them.)

Oh, and before you bring up SIMs... there are GSM phones without SIMs, and CDMA as a protocol does support R-UIMs (which is the CDMA version of the SIM.)]]>Mar 15th 2009 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
Who cares? 3.6 vs 7.2 Mbps on a handheld device with a screen matrix of even 800x600 is going to be noticable. The iPhone actually works, unlike my constantly crashing WinMo from HTC, Motorola, ...

I can't believe I waited this long to try an iPhone based on a Unix BSD core vs. the crap that M$ pushes. If Ubuntu was around earlier I would have one by now.

OK Apple haters, and M$ lovers I'm ready for my extra light shade of grey....vote me down!]]>Mar 15th 2009 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 6:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/03/hands-on-xfce-46-has-nice-new-features-no-fat.ars

However, if one decided that the performance of Ubuntu/Xubuntu was undesirable, a high speed mini-sd card could be inserted and partitioned as swap space.]]>Mar 15th 2009 6:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 7:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 7:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 8:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 16th 2009 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 8:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
The device already runs full Debian armel, which is what Ubuntu is based on. It's really really cool what you can do with it (pretty much everything :) but at the same time really really annoyingly slow, even after leaving at the CPU at max overclock(400mhz).

Usable? Day to day stuff, NO. For an emergency, YES, it can read and edit word docs, docx and spreadsheets fine through open-office, it also runs full firefox with all the addons, and it does whatever else you can do with linux.

The good news is that the next version of the Nokia Tablets is going to use OMAP3 chips instead of OMAP2, this should do wonders for usability.

Either way, one thing is for sure, it can run full linux, and ARM cpus have wonderful battery life that blows Intel Atom right out of the water.]]>Mar 15th 2009 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
Hopefully it'll be a large version of the N97 (and hopefully with a 5 row keyboard).]]>Mar 15th 2009 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 8:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
b) I can see wanting cross-building compatibility between Maemo and Ubuntu, but Android doesn't even run X windows, and you'd need to be building one to object files and the other Dalvik virtual machine files ... that would be a lot more complicated. Especially when you add in how different the UI for Android vs (Maemo or Ubuntu; the User Interfaces for Maemo and Ubuntu are somewhat different, but they do have some similarities)) is. As much as I think Maemo's UI is _great_, the last thing I'd want is to run apps on Android that are completely not Android like in their UI. That would be both jarring, and incredibly poor design.]]>Mar 15th 2009 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/I'm sure this porting of Ubuntu will help Mer make the tablet useable; running a desktop window system on a touchscreen PDA is just not funny. I know there is effort going into Qt and Gtk to hildonise them too.
]]>Mar 15th 2009 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
**geekgasm**

But ye, its perfect.]]>Mar 15th 2009 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
As for supporting MIPS devices with an ARM port, that doesn't make any sense; you simply can't target two completely unrelated architectures with one port.

It shouldn't be too hard for Ubuntu to make a MIPS port if they decide to, as Debian already has one, but I'm not sure why they would -- AFAIK, nobody's making MIPS end-user devices anymore. It would bear no more relation to the ARM port than the x86 port, though.]]>Mar 15th 2009 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/
ARMv1: ARM1 - very, very few in the wild
ARMv2: ARM2, ARM3, and ARM250 - for the most part, only in Acorn Archimedes machines
ARMv3: ARM6 (there is no ARM4 or ARM5) and some ARM7s
ARMv4: Some ARM7s, StrongARM, ARM8, some ARM9s
ARMv5: Some ARM7s, some ARM9s, ARM10, XScale
ARMv6: ARM11
ARMv7: ARM Cortex

IIRC, Debian is compiled to ARMv4.

Ubuntu will be compiled to ARMv5, with some ARMv6 and ARMv7 binaries where there's a significant performance boost.

This is similar to Linux distributions being compiled to i386 for optimum compatibility, even if they'd get more performance compiling to i586 or i686.]]>Mar 15th 2009 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 6:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/Mar 15th 2009 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/http://digg.com/linux_unix/Watch_nitdroid_emulator_emulated_nokia_tablet_runs_android

Here is the n8x0 emulator for running android, but it should emulate ubuntu too, I'll test it ]]>Mar 16th 2009 12:09PM