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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[You failed to mention something fairly important - some of the Pre's functionality is offloaded to web servers. Is that offloaded functionality an extra-cost product not yet mentioned by Palm?<br><br>[you also mention SDK availability - where can one get the Pre SDK?]<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Freakin Ijit]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 12:25PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[Sorry, this has nothing to do with your comment.<br><br>Windows Mobile does have global search, and has wide support for gestures (e.g. switching from one e-mail account to another is just a swiping gesture away).]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Surur]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 12:53PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@Surur<br><br>I know, and they also left out any skinning options like HTC offers that make Winmo much easier to use.  the new Touchflo3d ads a WHOLE LOT of functionality to windows mobile but they did the review like there was no way to improve winmo... A touch pro 2 or a touch diamond 2 with touchflo3d could take on/down an iphone any day.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[sacapuntas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:02PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[Can you be more specific about what's offloaded? ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[ian9outof10]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:03PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[The iPhone's App Store currently has 28,600 apps, which is more apps than Windows Mobile. Also, the other phones don't have an ecosystem like iTunes, which provides millions of songs, videos, TV shows, Podcasts. Just saying.<br><br><br><br>App Store Breakdown (currently 28,600 apps)<br><br>5,772 Games<br>3,930 Entertainment <br>2,882 Books	<br>2,428 Utilities	<br>2,019 Education	<br>1,605 Lifestyle	<br>1,305 Travel	<br>1,220 Reference	<br>1,087 Productivity	<br>981   Sports<br>890   Music<br>760   Navigation<br>755   Healthcare & Fitness<br>625   Business<br>551   Photography<br>545   Finance<br>444   Social Networking<br>380   News<br>286   Medical<br>135   Weather<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[P.A.C Man]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:11PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[There is no SDK available yet. You can already develop your application (we don't have the UI elements yet, but they can be temperately replicated with CSS till we get the SDK/emulator).<br><br>(some do have the SDK, but its very very few in number)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Templarian]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:30PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@Pac man<br><br>Just because they have all of those apps available doesn't mean I need all of those apps. I would rather have a few that "just work" than have twenty thousand that are "just OK". Take for example the 1,087 "productivity apps" that are available for the iphone, I have access to all of those, sure, but in the end I can be much more productive on a blackberry or winmo phone.  See what I am saying? The sheer number of apps is not relevant,  the goal is to have apps that are the most useful and productive<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[sacapuntas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:41PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@Pac man<br><br>Uh, Windows has more apps than OSX. Would you also recommend that people stop using that OS so they can get with the one that the market obviously supports more?<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Look_Around_You]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:57PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@sacapuntus, who said: "I would rather have a few that "just work" than have twenty thousand that are "just OK"."<br><br><br>Does that apply to everything? For example, Windows users say Windows is better because it has more apps than OS X. From my experience, Windows has a butt load of apps, but a good majority of them are shareware apps that do very few things badly. I'm not saying your answer is right or wrong, but it would be instructive to remember this when the PC people bash Mac users for buying Macs because they like iLife or Final Cut Studio or Logic or Shake or Textmate. <br><br>Quality is more important to some people, which is why people are buying the iPhone. The UI is much easier to use than the other phones and obviously more intuitive.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[P.A.C Man]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:58PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[> ...There is no SDK available yet. You can already develop your application (we don't have the<br>> UI elements yet, but they can be temperately replicated with CSS till we get the SDK/emulator).<br><br>We don't have a WHOLE lot more than simple UI elements. We don't have SQL APIs, we don't have web-server APIs (serviceRequest), we don't have sound, accelerometer, etc etc etc.<br><br>If you want to make a simple Javascript widget that doesn't do anything interesting, you're set!<br><br>Otherwise...where's the SDK?<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Freakin Ijit]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:59PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@P.A.C Man <br><br>no you're just wrong, sorry.<br>sure they're not all in one place but Windows Mobile has more Apps available to date- just google for pocketpc and smartphone software<br>the one site i go to has roughly 6,000 apps so imagine adding every single WinMo software site together]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gustav The Lion]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 2:01PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA["The UI is much easier to use than the other phones and obviously more intuitive."<br><br>That is what is known as a "personal opinion". Please do yourself a favor and learn the difference between that an a fact.<br><br>I know that Apple fans have a very difficult time telling the two apart and just assume their personal opinion should be chiseled in stone.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Look_Around_You]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 2:01PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[does this review say wm doesn't do global search and gestures. What is going on with engadget? this is like saying OSX doesn't do word processing. there are very large numb ers of WM applications including screen front ends and shells that do this extremely well. The whole point of WM is its 50,000,000 and growing sales and the large and robust developer community. Have you seen SPB 3.0 for WM?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dutch]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 2:03PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@Freakin Iji: webOS' apps are made with web technologies, but they don't run *from* the web. All apps should be running straight from the device, so there is no offloading to kill the productivity on the OS.<br><br>@P.A.C Man: fart, flashlight and beer apps fall into which category? Those numbers are impressive, I won't deny, but they don't automatically reflect quality. <br><br>Windows Mobile devices were always directed for a more corporate user, so many of those just-for-fun apps don't show up with the same frequency. Of course the OS itself is not well know for its amazing performance, which doesn't really gives people much motivation to make those apps as well.<br><br>As for the webOS, yeah, there is not SDK right now. But so was the case with the iPhone, which started with no SDK at all, then only the limited web app's SDK some months after release, and only then the full native SDK after... what, a year? <br><br>I'm not saying webOS is gonna kill all iPhone apps, but there will be a native (even if not compiled) SDK available just after release of the device itself, so there is a lot of potencial for good development. At least most of those apps you see today on the iPhone should be possible to replicate on webOS just after release. Only time will tell how good they will be.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kemwer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 2:08PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@ Gustav the Lion, who said: "no you're just wrong, sorry. sure they're not all in one place but Windows Mobile has more Apps available to date."<br><br><br><br>"We currently have 20,000 applications available for Windows Mobile devices" <br><br>—James Blamey, group product manager for Microsoft Mobile Communications Business.<br><br><br><br><br>According to James Blamey, you're wrong. <br><br>Of course, math was never my strength, but it would seem that 28,600 is more than 20,000. Just saying. You can call this guy on the phone and argue with him about it.<br><br><br><br><br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[P.A.C Man]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 2:13PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[> ...webOS' apps are made with web technologies, but they don't run *from* the web. All apps<br>> should be running straight from the device, so there is no offloading to kill the productivity on the OS...<br><br>Incorrect.<br><br>Read the first chapter (or if you want to spring for it, the now-available 2nd chapter, too) of the official WebOS development guide pointed to by Palm's developer web site. Check pages 2 and 3, for example.<br><br>Sure, you can have entirely device-resident widgets. But the REAL power begins when your client-side GUI connects to a Web-based application server.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Freakin Ijit]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 2:23PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@Dutch: the article says that because there is a Third-Party section to deal with... well, third-party applications. Other sections are related to core functions delivered by the of-the-shelf OS.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kemwer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 2:28PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@Freakin Ijit: I understand perfectly that all applications *can* access the web. As all iPhone apps can, BTW. My point is that, just like iPhone apps, those apps are native applications that run entirely from the device, loading data from the web as needed, but they don't need a connection open at all times to perform core functions.<br><br>Apps like the contact manager or the calendar can run at all times without internet connection. They will, however, sync their data when a connection is made available. The same way any of the other OSes listed on the article would if you install Google Sync on them.<br><br>So again, there is no offloading, because the device doesn't *need* to send data to the cloud for processing, even if it *can* do that. There is no difference from any other device or OS on this category.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kemwer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 2:36PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[> ...those apps are native applications that run entirely from the device, loading data from<br>> the web as needed, but they don't need a connection open at all times to perform core functions...<br><br>I would (strongly) suggest again that you read pages 2 and 3 of that chapter from Palm - they outright discuss offloading functionality to the web (and, in fact, if you want to hide your source code from the user, that's about the only way to do it - put it out there in the cloud instead of on the device).<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Freakin Ijit]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 2:45PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[The key here is "to date". S60 and WinMo had a lot of novelty apps that died a death some time ago.  Similarly, the productivity apps have been narrowed down from a wide field to best of breed.  The iPhone is yet to undergo this process as it's a relatively new platform.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Anderson]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 2:54PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@ P.A.C. Man<br><br>Are you trying to say that Apps offered on OS X are of higher quality then those offered on PC?<br><br>And the reason the iPhone sells more units is because of one word; Marketing.  Even if the iPhone had a horrible OS (not saying that it does,) if you market it enough, buy enough advertisements, people will buy it. The average consumer does not read Engadget, or check out the reviews at Cnet, they just pick the one they see on TV or the one everyone is talking about. Not to mention, that Apple holds a large market share in the MP3 player market, thus their brand awareness is the highest of all these competing OSes.  Windows mobile has very little brand awareness because its not clearly associated with one phone, the average consumer is not aware of it's presence.  If you ask a person walking into a AT&T or Verizon store; "What do you think about Windows Mobile?" their reply would be; "I don't know, but i know the HTC Touch Diamond, Sony Xperia are pretty cool." Blackberry on the other hand are pretty adept at this marketing thing too, they ship much more units then Apple, just look at the Storm, its OS is obviously flawed yet with enough advertisements, they're selling pretty well.    <br><br>Speaking of MP3 player market, here's an unrelated rant;<br>By the way, you have to give it to them, Apple is a brilliant marketing machine, i mean take a look at their line of MP3 players: iPod Nano, iPod Classic, iPod Shuffle are clearly inferior to their competitors, offering inferior audio quality to Microsoft's Zune, almost all iRiver branded devices, Cowan's whole lineup, and sometimes less functionality; Zune, Cowans both offer unique functionality, yet they hold such a large market share and are able to charge a premium for their products as well. Other then the iPod Touch which offers unique functionality in the MP3 player market, but if you take a look around, the iPod Touch is not responsible for the huge market share. The other 3 don't do anything original, nor anything well enough to justify their position in the market.  The other 3 are average at best, the marketing department at Apple are the true geniuses. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[bert]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 3:00PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[I understand what you mean, and while I do agree that it is a possibility for some tasks, what I wanted you to acknowledge is that this offloading is not obligatory for developing apps for webOS, and therefore not a big problem for it just as it isn't for other plataforms.<br><br>Because of the architecture of the OS, it's very easy to create apps this way, making the mobile app simply a frontend for the application as a whole and sending that data for the server for actual processing. But unless you want to make a heavy processing utility or are really worried about your source code (which is a real concern right now, I agree), there is no reason why you should do that.<br><br>Simple applications, like the majority of what people use on a day-by-day basis should run just fine as totally local apps, and therefore there should be no concern about high data plan usage.<br><br>I will make an in-depth reading on the new chapter (I have already read the 1st a few times), as soon as I manage to find it. For some reason only the first chapter is showing up on the Developer Network for me right now. If you could point me to the right direction I would be very thankful.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kemwer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 3:03PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@pacman you forget to mention the blackberry is getting an app store but doesnt need one to load custom software onto it because of the ability for almost every program made for the Blackberry to load OTA and install... Meaning the millions of apps out there are avalible to the blackberry.. not just the less then 30,000 the iphone can do]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Numus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 3:10PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[I love the PC fanboys rationalizations (or contradictions).<br><br><br><br>They say PCs are better because Windows has more apps, but if the iPhone has more apps than Windows Mobile, the apps must automatically "suck."<br><br>They say Windows is better because it has 90 percent of the market, but if the iPod has more market share than the Zune, it's not better, it just has better "marketing."<br><br><br>Give me a break.<br><br><br>Basically, no matter why Apple products sell, in the mind of a PC fanboy, they lose.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[P.A.C Man]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 3:19PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[The first chapter of the official WebOS development guide is generally available free - the second thru Nth will cost you money:<br><br><a href="http://my.safaribooksonline.com/9780596802097/" rel="nofollow">http://my.safaribooksonline.com/9780596802097/</a>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Freakin Ijit]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 3:20PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[This article was horrible.<br><br>iPhone's web browser is horrible control wise (and stability wise) it registers false positives and negatives all the time. It feels like they used Newton's handwriting recognition as their controller. It's always registering clicks for me when I'm trying to drag. Ignoring clicks even though it shows I selected a link, etc etc. I wish it let us use a stylus.<br><br>And iphone's keyboard is horrible! I'd kill for bluetooth kb support, or one that plugs into the dock port. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Extinction]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 3:37PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@Freakin Ijit: well, I'll wait to spend money on it after is ready. :)<br><br>I did however re-read the first chapter, and I must say that while I do understand the logic about the whole off-loading business you described, I didn't find a single reference to it on said pages 2 and 3 you commented a few times.<br><br>There are a few talks about common development techniques for the web and how those compare to developing for webOS, and there are comments about how current internet services and applications should work fine on the browser, which is a way to leverage web content without having to develop native apps for the device.<br><br>Like I said before, the book does go and describes how easy it is to make "connected applications, or applications that leverage dynamic data or web services", which describes pretty much all Sinergy-ready applications already made for webOS, but that is very different from claiming these apps are off-loading processing to the web.<br><br>The difference is, in a extreme example, saying that a Calculator app is only going to handle data input, but actual calculations will be done on the cloud, instead of making a full app that gets the data from the user, process that data and displays the result without a web connection open.<br><br>You can make apps that need a constant web connection to be useful (Twitter, or Last.FM apps for instance), and you can even make apps that handle all data on-server and just use the device as a dumb terminal (a LogMeIn app would do just that, specially for security purposes), but the webOS doesn't *require* that from the developer of every single app. <br><br>There can be (and surely will be) many Todo List apps that require no internet connection at all, so this off-loading is not a inherent problem of the OS, just another tool the developer has to make good apps.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kemwer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 3:46PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[>> Basically, no matter why Apple products sell, in the mind of a PC fanboy, they lose.<br><br>@P.A.C Man: the thing is that no one claimed (on this particular thread at least) that Windows apps are better than iPhone's. All comments are only about how big numbers don't reflect superiority either for the plataform, or for the apps.<br><br>Apple might have the claim of most apps than any other plataform, but as Bert said, this says more about its marketing department than of the inherent quality of its apps, which is not even measurable.<br><br>Sure there are a lot of great apps for the iPhone, but there are also many for all other plataforms, so these numbers are pretty much meaningless. Of course Apple is always going to spin then to their benefit, but in the end of the day it doesn't change the life of the end user in any way.<br><br>quantity != quality<br><br>BTW, you might see that Windows users are usually very much aware of the problems with our plataform of choice. We have no problem criticizing Windows for its faults. The only thing that really bother us is how many Apple users (not saying that you are among them, read it like its written, there are no second intentions here) like to chant about the suposed superiority of their beloved computers while ignoring or trying to spin it like an option any problems the plataform might have.<br><br>I'm cool with open, inteligent dialog with users of any plataform, but have little patience with mindless preaching. AFAIK there are no Microsoft fanboys, we use Windows because that's the best for whatever we need doing.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kemwer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 23rd 2009 9:44AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@ PAC Man:<br><br>You went through all that trouble to find a quote of James Blamey saying that WinMo has less apps than the iPhone, and yet you somehow didn't think to provide a link? C'mon...<br><br>And regarding the whole "fanboy" thing - You don't honestly think that iPods would be dominating the MP3 market if they didn't invest billions in marketing, do you? They have a product that is sleek and smooth, and offers less features than their competitors. That's just common sense.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 10:49PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[James Blamey saying that Windows Mobile has only 20,000 apps.<br><br><a href="http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/news.phtml/22224/23248/microsoft-marketplace-mobile-app-store.phtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/news.phtml/22224/23248/microsoft-marketplace-mobile-app-store.phtml</a><br><a href="http://newsfeedresearcher.com/data/articles_t11/mobile-store-windows.html" rel="nofollow">http://newsfeedresearcher.com/data/articles_t11/mobile-store-windows.html</a><br><br><br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[P.A.C Man]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 20th 2009 12:21AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@PAC man<br><br>I always thought the argument against apple computers was that they are overpriced. Maybe that's just me.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 3rd 2009 2:47AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[I'm just happy I got MMS. SwirlyMMS on a jail broken iPhone works about .000001% of the time and they want you to pay for it.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MadMike]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 12:25PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[I don't know what you are doing wrong but I have definitely received all the pics I have been sent, especially the nudies haha]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[rodsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 12:39PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[but do they blend?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[baltimoresbest01]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 12:27PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[You can blend software now?<br><br>Well Symbian S60 does have Global Search... I go to the search option on the active standby and I'm able to search EVERYTHING on the phone from; email messages to txt msg, music and videos etc. <br><br>So apple didnt really bring anything new to the arena of Smartphone OSes besides a crappy mess of pages of icons and now pop ups asking for more money.<br><br>I also own an iPhone 1st gen and i gotta say my N95 8gb blows it out of water.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[ibsnowedin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 12:48PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[If you looked at the way most people (including myself) code you would think it was blended.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[DallasM]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 12:58PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[Can I get that top image in wallpaper size?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamil]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:39PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[I wish they did, blend.<br><br>Android and webOS, in particular. I'd love if "holding down" the home button on the Palm Pre would bring u to the same cards view, only with the cards a lot smaller and occupying the lower portion of the screen, with the remainder of the screen for shortcuts and widgets, as on Android.<br><br>It would be the most perfect patch Palm would ever make. For all I know, HOLDING down the home button doesn't do anything yet.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[TareX]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 6:34PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[engadget rules over gizmodo. There is definitely less bias here. Gizmodo did a similar article but did not include Symbian OS. When one commenter asked why there was no Symbian love he got a rude reply back from the author of the post. They also shit over all the other OS and glorified the iPhone OS.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 12:28PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[Gizmodo is a suck shack..<br><br>Everyone there is an Apple dog-crap-on-my-boot-licker...<br><br>A troll like me get highest ranked all day long!  Sick!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[iGoon#2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 12:31PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[Wow, thanks for pointing that out! Not only was his comment "rude," but calling the soon to be open-source, largest smartphone market share OS "lite" means he lost all credibility.<br><br>Good article Engadget! One concern: I don't use the Storm but on my Blackberry all notifications are tray/background except alarm and calender. I can't imagine the Storm being too different, is it?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[ALCie]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 12:39PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[Good for objectivity...<br>But is this really a specs question ?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregb]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:00PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[I like how they make them all look like the iPhone by having them all on their application launching screens.  Other OS's actually have more useful screens as their default - Android with their widget desktop, Windows Mobile with their Today screen and Symbian with their widgetized standby screen.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Surur]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:01PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[why would anyone read giz...?<br>engadget has little bias and even that is shunned upon enough times by the readers.<br>oh well, in the states apple is pretty big... so is gizmodo (run a google trends)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[mynk]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:02PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[Thats the cool thing about this site. When the writers get a little too iHappy, the readers can back-hand them back into balance. Giz writers are wusses.<br><br><br>As for this article, I give it an A+++ from my iPaq, running WM 6.0!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Look_Around_You]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:14PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[Less bias perhaps, but bias all the same. Engadget's too worried about looking like they suck up to Apple. For example, I could dispute the points:<br><br>- Background apps: The iPhone has a push notification service which should amount to the same thing.<br>- Platform adaptability: iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPod Touch 1G, iPod Touch 2G. Yes, they're all by the same vendor, but the same goes for RIM's Blackberry OS. The iPhone's OS runs on 4 devices. RIM's OS doesn't run on many more than that.<br><br>Also, I don't get the moaning about the iPhone 3.0 software being "what was supposed to have shipped". Reviews have resoundingly stated that the iPhone is ahead in nearly everything that it offers (web browsing, mobile email, appstore...etc), but the criticism has been that it offers too little. The 3.0 upgrade solves that. The towers are still there, Apple have just patched the divots in between.<br><br>Of course, while Apple have been patching those divots, the rest of the industry has been catching up. For example, whilst web browsing on the iPhone is certainly better than Android, it doesn't have the competitive edge it used to before. Still, a fantastic update IMO - been using it for a day, and I like the new features.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[KarlW]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:17PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[@ KarlW<br><br>Push notifications =/= background apps (multitasking)<br><br>Multitasking = minimizing one app and start other apps while the first one is still running in the background.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[bachviet]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 1:52PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[FYI: the iPhone does do multi-tasking, which why you're able to answer a phone call while your music is playing. And the hardware is obviously capable of handling it, as anyone who runs backgrounder on a jail broken phone will admit to you.<br><br>Apple has repeatedly said they won't allow it for THIRD PARTY APPS, because of battery life.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[P.A.C Man]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 2:30PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[I agree completely, Andrew. I just want to point out to anyone that is saying engadget sucks Apple's tit, are you kidding? Did you not see the EDITOR OF ENGADGET on the Jimmy Fallon show, in it's highly-watched first week, completely showing off the Palm Pre? It was a big push for Pre.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[leapingmadly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 2:42PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/mobile-os-shootout-iphone-os-3-0-enters-the-fray/</guid><description><![CDATA[Top keywords used in the article...<br><br>Keyword  	Count   	Density<br> os	66	2.2%<br> iphone	57	1.9%<br> neutral	48	1.6%<br> mobile	44	1.46%<br> windows	36	1.2%<br> apps	32	1.06%<br> apple	32	1.06%<br> engadget	24	0.8%<br> blackberry	23	0.77%<br> android	19	0.63%<br> search	16	0.53%<br> webos	16	0.53%<br> web	15	0.5%<br> touch	12	0.4%<br> good	12	0.4%<br> ui	11	0.37%<br> sdk	11	0.37%<br> palm	11	0.37%]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 19th 2009 2:46PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
