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A) Sets his water bill to 10$ ('cause come on, if it was zero, someone'd notice :P)

B) Makes his neighbor pay double]]>Mar 25th 2009 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
I live in NYC and not for nothing but not ALL meters are estimated. I have a reader outside my house along with everyone else in my neighborhood. They READ it every 3 months and bill as such. Sewage waste is estimated based on intake of water, they should figure a way to read that instead of estimating.]]>Mar 25th 2009 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
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The way it works here, the municipality worker drives down the street in a pick up equipped with receiving equipment that logs the usage. I'm not sure how often they do that, but I still get a bill every three months. ]]>Mar 25th 2009 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
It may also allow people to identify leaks. For example, if you're away for a week but you still used water.

We have these in DC and it's pretty neat to be able to see your daily use and see about how much you used for, e.g., watering the lawn (when you get a spike in daily usage).]]>Mar 25th 2009 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
The meters themselves dont save water - they save money on the labor]]>Mar 26th 2009 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
NYC : http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.c0935b9a57bb4ef3daf2f1c701c789a0/index.jsp?pageID=mayor_press_release&catID=1194&doc_name=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyc.gov%2Fhtml%2Fom%2Fhtml%2F2009a%2Fpr140-09.html&cc=unused1978&rc=1194&ndi=1

Video: http://www.nyc.gov/html/om/html/2009a/media/pc032409_water.asx

Meter Manufacturer: http://www.aclara.com

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Hopefully it's just the model that our town deployed, otherwise there are going to be a lot of pissed off people when they get their bills. Or happy depending on which way the meter decides to read. ]]>Mar 25th 2009 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
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Viva Boro Park!]]>Mar 25th 2009 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
Trucks will still read the meters, but they just have to drive by the homes.

Just like in New York City, each month customers will get exact bills versus estimated bills.
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If they are estimating everyone's water usage, some people may be paying for water they aren't actually using. Who knows if that means that they are collecting 90 million more or less than they should, or if some people are paying too little and some are paying too much.

In my town, it would eliminate some jobs for the people who walk around and read them. A better solution is to have people phone in their readings every one-three months. I do this instead of them estimating my electric bill.]]>Mar 25th 2009 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
Where you make a real difference is when you install *new* meters in single-metered buildings. When people have a direct incentive to save water in their apartment, then they will reduce usage. Sub-metering is key (IMHO).]]>Mar 25th 2009 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
Assuming the bugs can be ironed out (and I'm betting they can), this is basically a good idea. It reduces costs to the utility, and gives customers near-instant feedback on their usage. I know I'd watch my consumption much more closely if I had a convenient way to monitor it.

Long term, it would be nice to think that this will actually lead to greater conservation.]]>Mar 25th 2009 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
It is one good thing about being a computer engineer is that there will be a need to program these robots.]]>Mar 25th 2009 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
"Lots of people think their jobs can't be replaced."

Yeah.]]>Mar 25th 2009 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
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Yay.]]>Mar 25th 2009 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
Still, its better to be billed on your actual consumption versus an estimate.]]>Mar 25th 2009 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
?]]>Mar 25th 2009 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/]]>Mar 25th 2009 1:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/2) It's just a way to get more money out of people. "LAWL LOOKS LIKE OUR ESTIMATES WERE ALWAYS WRONG, U OWE $80+/month!!!"]]>Mar 25th 2009 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
Here in the UK only a very limited number of people have water meters installed (no wireless ones as far as I'm aware). In practice this seems to mean that most people treat water as an almost valueless resource they can squander on any crap they want. With a system like this people will be forced to use less or pay more. Thumbs up all round.]]>Mar 25th 2009 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/Mar 25th 2009 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/25/wireless-water-meters-on-the-loose-in-new-york-city/
Why should l pay for my renters' water usage?

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