http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/ Engadget Comments for Havok and AMD show off OpenCL with pretty pretty dresses http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 9:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/
rigormortis!! c omon! ]]>Mar 27th 2009 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/

(supposedly this one actually does hair, though)]]>Mar 27th 2009 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/
Hopefully they haven't only improved performance, but the actual solver as well. Otherwise, it's useless...]]>Mar 27th 2009 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/
I'd rather use graphic card to help encode/decode video instead.]]>Mar 27th 2009 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Assumption #1: OpenCL is teh new h0tness
Assumption #2: OpenCL will be good for games
Assertion #1: OpenCL is cross platform friendly
Assertion #2: Games programmed in OpenCL would be stupid easy to port from one platform to another

Question: So are we going to see more Mac/Linux games going forward?]]>Mar 27th 2009 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/
The only real future Mac has with game would be OnLive. Other than that, Windows 7 (+ DX11 and 3D vision) all the way.]]>Mar 27th 2009 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/please, stay quiet in ya momma's basement.]]>Mar 27th 2009 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/

i always picked directx because it ran better....for the most part that is still true...

OpenGL is great and all because of the crossplatformness....

but the effects and speed direct-X runs at is just better.]]>Mar 27th 2009 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/
OpenGL = Open Graphic Library
OpenCL = Open Computing Language (can't get much more general than that)

Does OpenCL have the resources to replace OpenGL or will you be using both? If you are using DirectX does that preclude you from using OpenCL too?

What's the likelyhood that a game designed from the ground up using OpenCL will not require windows?]]>Mar 27th 2009 1:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/What about back in the day you could also choose 3dFX? Fire that up with the original GTA and it would run stupid fast. Back in the day of the original SLI, PCI all the way...]]>Mar 27th 2009 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/
+1 agreed]]>Mar 27th 2009 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/]]>Mar 27th 2009 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/
/sarcasm

Seriously though, this looks actually pretty nice. Considering you are forced to upgrade to Vista/Windows 7 for DirectX nowadays, (which pisses me off to no end!)]]>Mar 27th 2009 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/
I'll take this chance to argue another angle of this DirectX 10 discussion (besides the very true and factual "different architecture" angle).

It's not like this is unprecedentent. 8.1 is the last version for 98/ME, which means DirectX support for the OSes ended near the release of XP (and ME was only a year or two old at that point). At some point OS support has to stop, and when a massive architectural change is ushered in it's not a bad time to do it.]]>Mar 27th 2009 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/
But they also need to realize that perhaps people /still want XP/. At the time of Windows 98 and all, plenty of people were willing to make the upgrade to Windows 2000(or ME, ugh), and then XP. However, Vista, people are screaming GET IT OFF, and companies are still willing to pre-install it on computers for you.

Many UMPC and netbook manufacturers still stand by XP as well. It's one thing to stop supporting something that nobody has a use for, it's another thing when most of your market is still /going/ to your older products. I mean, really, how many games have you actually seen that has just been DirectX 10 capable?

Barely any!]]>Mar 27th 2009 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/
But not really if you go back and look at what was said the first year or two XP came out, and the adoption numbers. There was definitely a movement of people wanting to stay on 98 for performance reasons, among other things.]]>Mar 27th 2009 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/I just think it's more practical and all.
And sorry, Microsoft, stop selling XP and probably you'll lose a lot of money.

OH WAIT-]]>Mar 27th 2009 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/
To keep it straight, OpenCL isn't a graphics platform anyways, which is why you see models dancing on a flat floor - I imagine developers will use DX11 for the graphics and OpenCL for the Havok physics, which (keep in mind) have been the defacto industry standard for the physics engine since it runs on everything, including minimum specs for Half-Life 2 (2004).]]>Mar 27th 2009 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/
How can you possibly prefer Microsofts proprietary DirectX stuff over cross-platform open goodness such as OpenGL/OpenAL/OpenCL etc. Same with CUDA and ATI Stream, no one wants to be locked into one brand :)]]>Mar 27th 2009 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 8:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/Mar 27th 2009 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/27/havok-and-amd-show-off-opencl-with-pretty-pretty-dresses/http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=279&threadid=111105&enterthread=y
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