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WTF Dell? You were high up. Guess when you need to improve margins you get rid of all of those luxuries like "safety" and "non-toxicity."

At least with Apple in the orange area I can feel confident in my hatred for their new commercials. "Greenest laptop in the world" my (_!_). ]]>Mar 31st 2009 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
Sorry, what was your point?

We get it. You guys hate Apple, and that's perfectly alright, but get over it already, for Christ's sake. I'm tired of scanning the comments and see this bulllllshit Mac vs. PC argument trotted out with every single mother-fucking post. Grow the fuck up.

And that goes for the Apple zealots, too, but most of the time I notice one of these idiotic conversations start up, it's because some douchebag Apple-hater started it.]]>Mar 31st 2009 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
Who died and made Greenpeace the King of England? "Tell us all about your manufacturing processes and spare absolutely no details, otherwise we'll slander you in the press."?

Nintendo was last (or close to it) last time also - not because they were provably making toxic crap, but because they refused to tell their processes to Greenpeace.

Fuck Greenpeace.]]>Mar 31st 2009 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/If that was directed at me I wasn't intending to be overtly anti-Apple. Every corporation does it, especcially in America where advertising standards are surprisingly lax - but just take a look at Apples ads from an objective standpoint it's pretty obvious that they are 'taking liberties' with the truth if not outright lying.]]>Mar 31st 2009 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
Case in point, this thread. ]]>Mar 31st 2009 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
Darn. I always fall for the villians. I might as well get it over with and become a henchman to a mob boss or something.

And +1 to Gordon. He really nailed the sentiments I have.]]>Mar 31st 2009 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
Guess what? Apple makes PCs. Macs ARE PCs.]]>Mar 31st 2009 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
That's just semantics. ]]>Mar 31st 2009 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
As a mixed shop owner and home user as well, congrats to Apple. It's an achievement in moving towards more responsible engineering and production. All you haters ... take your SUV's out in rush hour traffic and let your rage flow. It's STILL not going to change the fact some companies are doing a hell of a lot better than others in this arena. ]]>Mar 31st 2009 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
Ah, sorta like Microsoft hiring an ACTRESS to pretend to be a regular gal shopping for a laptop for herself? Not that there's anything wrong with that, per se. But then PROHIBITING HER FROM SAYING ANYTHING about that laptop, or Windows itself, after the purchase?

Yep. That's honesty for you.

The Apple haterade flows freely here on the Engadget comments board. Bottoms up!]]>Mar 31st 2009 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
"Every corporation does it"
-me later that very comment

Almost everyone lies in ads, especially so it seems in America why do people defend Apple when they do it? Especially when there is so much evidence on youtube (again not to say other corporations aren't guilty of the same thing).]]>Mar 31st 2009 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
If you look at cellphone makers apple is pretty mutch the last.

But it really doesnt mean anything. Greenpeaces this years favorite boogieman is pvc, or more correctly flatates that are added into pvc. Neither pvc or flatates are harmful for people or nature, but greenpeace needs a bogeyman so they make one.

There's no standard for this ranking. Each year greenpeace makes it they just decide how to make it up, shuffling manufacturers whichever way, trying to make them hop by their command. But there's no point with this list as the placement is completely arbitrary.

If you want good greenpeace ranking the money is better spent on pr department than greener iniatitives as ranking is more influenced by what you seem to do than what you do
. As usual, greenpeace gives us more rubbish.]]>Mar 31st 2009 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPa0RI6umDQ]]>Mar 31st 2009 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
End of discussion.]]>Mar 31st 2009 8:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/See how much they promote the idea:
Stamping the word "Recycle!" on the innerside of back cover,
tell you to unplug from wall when recharge completes,
recycling handsets and batteries in Nokia stores,
Providing app for users to pay for Carbon Offset,
Trying to sell N79 with no charger(Don't ask why giving 3 covers, it's XpressOn)
And that smart charger that reduces standby power consumtionb
They don't Ad these things but they did it.]]>Apr 1st 2009 12:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
Not a fucking bit.]]>Mar 31st 2009 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
Greenpeace rating "greenness" is like the Taliban rating your "devotion" to God.]]>Mar 31st 2009 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/But all in all I'm somehow happy that some organsiation at least tries to compare companies and show them how to improve. Not that I like Greenpeace, 90% of their memebs are idiots, have no clue what they are really doing, but without such comparisons the companies wouldn't even try to make their products 'greener'.]]>Mar 31st 2009 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 7:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
Apple ain't in the top 5.

Toshiba, however, are and I note that they seem to be quite a bit ahead of our fruit friends.]]>Mar 31st 2009 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
...or do they?

:-P]]>Mar 31st 2009 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/
Table 3 refers:

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker/article.aspx?symbol=US:IT&feed=BW&date=20090114&id=9515218

Fourth in the US, mind. Not that anyone really cares about that.]]>Mar 31st 2009 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/greenpeace-slams-hp-lenovo-and-dell-in-latest-report/Mar 31st 2009 3:47PM