http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/ Engadget Comments for Sprint employees now training with the Palm Pre? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Yes, it seems OK , but very inferior to many of the smartphones that will be released in the next few months such as HTC Super Star or Thoth, or Nokia's N97, orToshiba TG01, or Samsung OmniaHD or Mundi, not to talk about the Android smartphone Archos and Texas Instruments promised to the geeky masses.
Personally, after just I quick look at the Pre photos I knew that I would never buy the Pre because I think that the qwerty kboard on portrait position is a terrible idea. ]]>Apr 10th 2009 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
Comparing HTC Super Star or Thoth, or Nokia's N97, orToshiba TG01, or Samsung OmniaHD or Mundi and saying the Palm Pre is not superior without you even watching one video of the webOS (based in limux mind you), is a joke. Although I do like the N97 for power, storage and design, I am not about to drop $750+ on that phone that can't do half of what the Pre can do.

Your knowledge of cell phones and the intricacies of OS's are clearly lacking. Go watch a couple of videos of the Pre. Check out http://twitter.com/FoneFrenzy for some more information.
]]>Apr 10th 2009 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
I'm one of those guys that is actually happy to change his opinions if they prove to be obsolete and I'm always open to try to see and possibly learn something new; so I checked your link full of expectations, but the only video I found was a meaningless Palm commercial.
I am also very curious to know what exactly are the "things- that- the- Pre- can- do" or its advantages compared to the devices I named , which , using Snapdragon or Tegra technologies are bound to be more versatile and fast than the Pre (against which I have absolutely nothing BTW).
At the moment I own an HTC touchHD and a Samsung Omnia which I had for over 7 months and both of them seem to offer all the possibilities of the coming Pre.

The N97 and the HTC SuperStar will also have an inbuilt FM sender which will let you hear your music or podcasts wirelessly on any HiFI or car stereo.
Moreover in Denmark , where I live, carriers will subsidize them and sell them for a maximum of 200 euros on a 6 months contract (the legal maximum here) with unlimited voice and data .
That's what I paid for my Omnia; the touchHD was slightly cheaper.
The SE Experia, HTC touch pro, iPone3G and LG renoir, can all be had at about 150USD (on the usual 6months contract) , So the listing price of an unlocked device here is not that important.
Anyway if you really have some links that you think can make me change my mind or illuminate me on those mystical advantages that the Palm Pre will confer on its users, you are welcome to post them, and I'll sure check them out.]]>Apr 10th 2009 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
Name one thing that the Pre can do that the HTC Super Star can not.]]>Apr 10th 2009 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
You should do a little better googling of videos as there are several on the net as well as here on Engadget that show the clear advantages of the Pre over any other phone on the market with it's webOS system. None of the phones you have mentioned are able to do the what the Pre can do. Then again, the Pre has limited memory and other items that perhaps should have been made part of the phone.

SE Xperia and the n97 will not be subsidized here in the US. FM transmitter is fine, but I'd rather plug in the phone to my Monster cable installed in my car to get superior sound and not have the static interference of the FM band. Therefore, Denmark made great law but you probably end up paying a higher monthly fee because of your phone subsidies.

Full Demo of the Palm Pre: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R33Lc8cOXRs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRnlzbuLRwM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiQzCd2OnoM

]]>Apr 10th 2009 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/2) Allow anyone that can write web code, easily write apps for the Pre.
3) Faster FULL browser with multi-touch
4) Smart zoom to format to the page
5) Automatically pasted web pages, with previews in email
6) Clear open apps with one swipe
7) Ability to bring all of your contacts into one view from multiple different sources, email, facebook, etc.
8) Ability to search the entire phone or a web search via universal search within one app


Shall I keep going?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R33Lc8cOXRs

I love it when people talk the talk but have not watched the entire video of the OS itself.]]>Apr 10th 2009 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
http://blogs.nvidia.com/sli/2008/02/nvidias-apx-250.html
]]>Apr 10th 2009 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
I get it. The Pre will be a great device. It *actually* has drivers, providing a more solid graphical experience. You, however, cannot expect anyone to take you seriously when you openly admit to owning a monster audio cable.

Just saying.]]>Apr 10th 2009 1:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/"1) Multi-task with Live Panels (cards) with applications truly running in the background in panels.
2) Allow anyone that can write web code, easily write apps for the Pre.
3) Faster FULL browser with multi-touch
4) Smart zoom to format to the page
5) Automatically pasted web pages, with previews in email
6) Clear open apps with one swipe
7) Ability to bring all of your contacts into one view from multiple different sources, email, facebook, etc.
8) Ability to search the entire phone or a web search via universal search within one app"


1) WinMo already has this
You can multi-task with "Live Panels" on WinMo.
It's called Task Facade
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420220


2) Anyone that knows Visual C++, C#, Visual Basic, Java, Java Script, can write for Windows Mobile.
So what's your point here again?


3) Arguably the best browser to come will not be on the Pre, but Opera 9.7
The video here speaks for itself:
http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/2009/03/26/opera-mobile-9-7-beta-for-windows-mobile


4) Smart Zoom is a staple of most any WinMo app


5) Not sure about this feature, but if you're referring to full ads for websites (like those that Newegg sometimes sends me) then I can see those just fine using pocket Outlook


6) There are multiple ways of closing apps in WinMo, you can even use the accelerometer to shake the phone in a certain direction to shut apps down
(Once again this can be found on XDA-Devs)
Alternative, get this, you can hit the X button to close them. Imagine that.


7) There are a number of ways of doing this on WinMo as well, especially with 6.5.
Also other apps such as Vito Contacts handles this


8) Windows Mobile already has a global search built into it



So really, what can it do that a phone such as the Touch HD can't?

You have failed to provide one thing that is genuinely unique or can't be done on a WinMo device such as the Touch HD.

At best, all you demonstrated was that the Pre performs most functions almost exactly as a WinMo device but goes about it a bit differently at times.]]>Apr 10th 2009 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
Bolt is faster than Opera (for now)
http://boltbrowser.com/

Task Facade is nice alternative to the touch FLO interface but compare that experience with the Pre and you tell me which is faster?

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3794

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R33Lc8cOXRs


Overall, webOS smokes WinMo all the way around in sheer speed as demonstrated in the video above.

Smart Zoom is not very smart on a WinMo device's browser.

I am a fan of WinMo so don't get me wrong but everyone knows linux runs faster than WinMo and that's the point (at least until nvidia steps up with their processor and gets the HTC out sometime this year or next).

When the Pre comes out, take your Touch HD to the store and compare it side by side, you'll see for yourself.]]>Apr 10th 2009 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
For the sake of the Pre, I'd hope that it outperforms any WinMo phone on the market in terms of sheer speed, power, and rendering, that's because it will arguably support the most powerful hardware of any phone on the market once it arrives.

However, later this year, we will finally have processors and chipsets that will do WinMo justice.

The HTC Super Star is supposed to be launching with the first NV AP16 chipset, TEGRA!
The TG01 will come with SnapDragon at 1 GHZ.

Come back and compare when both of these units hits the shelves, as the current Qualcomm's admittedly dont stack up.

But aside from the speed issue (which will be resolved with the aforementioned new chip/chipset releases), you didn't really cite anything that the Pre can do that WinMo can not.]]>Apr 10th 2009 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
However, it is NOT a true "Full" browser.
It's purely Java based, and it does not render many sites correctly, and still does not support Flash in webpages.
It's merely a Java midlet-based app, nothing more, nothing less, just like Opera Mini.]]>Apr 10th 2009 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
There are many good browsers out there, not just Opera (which I use too btw):
http://www.skyfire.com/
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile

The only difference is like comparing two cars. One is a Volvo (WinMo on current hardware) the other is a Ferrari (webOS on the Pre). They both get you to where you are going, just one looks and feels a whole lot better.

Perhaps that is a better explanation for you to comprehend.

]]>Apr 10th 2009 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
the Pre is feature rich. sure the majority of things it does can be done on other OSes with the right apps but is the average user going to know how to benefit from that? i know plenty of people with smartphones that don't even know how to install apps.

here is a list of some of the built in features the Pre has that make it special in my opinion
-Synergy, which combine your various contact list and calendars from all over the web into one contact list
-the calender works with the GPS app to automatically tell you if your late, the fastest way to get to your destination, and can send out an email letting other attendees know your running late
-unobtrusive notifications which pop up in a tiny bar at the bottom of the screen letting you answer it or completely ignore it
-support for the entire back catalog of Palm OS apps (which number well into the thousands)
-smart device wide search that searches through your contacts, files, and calendar and if it can't find anything, sets up a Google search for you
-and the TouchStone charger IS something that no other phone offers

so it's not that the webOS is so much more capable than any other OS, it just does things in a more logical and smart way and uses all of the power embedded in various apps together.

one has to go no further than the articles and videos in this URL (http://www.engadget.com/hub/palm-pre) to see the potential of the Pre and webOS.]]>Apr 10th 2009 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
Nothing like putting your hopes on a device selling and being shafted by a sales staff's lack of knowledge.]]>Apr 10th 2009 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/-----
- Travezy: Sprint employees now training with the Palm Pre?
true or false?
- Shawn: True
I want one real bad
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So there we go then.]]>Apr 10th 2009 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
I was a sprint rep for a year and training meant reading a short highlight of a phone and what it includes. It's kind of difficult to tell someone what to do if you don't know what it looks like.

Hopefully training has been revised and is now hands on.

]]>Apr 10th 2009 4:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
of course you all aren't, its Engadget]]>Apr 10th 2009 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
..... battery charge dwindling...

........quick! go for the upsell on the $40 magnetic dock and doesn't sync data!


PROFIT!

*sigh..]]>Apr 10th 2009 8:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 11th 2009 7:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
-training as if their lives depended on it!]]>Apr 10th 2009 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/It means it's all over for crApple. Bye bye iphone!
This is what happens when you rest on your laurels. it's 1995 all over again.
The second coming of palm is nigh! Are you ready?]]>Apr 10th 2009 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
I just love competition. Better for people like me. =)]]>Apr 10th 2009 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
Soon........ ]]>Apr 10th 2009 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
Palm: Release a GSM one compatible with AT&T 3G service and I'll buy one even if unsubsidized.]]>Apr 10th 2009 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
Why oh why did Palm pick these retards.... ]]>Apr 10th 2009 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/
Make it count, Palm!]]>Apr 10th 2009 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/sprint-employees-now-training-with-the-palm-pre/Apr 10th 2009 11:28AM