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I think I may get both this an an Spinn, depending on what ZuneHD offers.]]>Apr 14th 2009 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/
May I suggest looking at the Cowon O2 pmp. I had my doubt at first from reading all the negative reviews regarding firmware but the latest update improve the touchscreen UI. It's a no hassle drag and drop, no conversion of most media you have on your pc. It also suport Apple lossless just in case you dare touch those.]]>Apr 14th 2009 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/
because you don't own a device that can play them?]]>Apr 14th 2009 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/
You can't just say "is A better than B?" without some definition of "better". Did you mean better in terms of performance cost-no-object? Or better at getting you laid? Better at going 0-60 in the least amount of time? Better for learning how to drive in? ]]>Apr 14th 2009 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15005]]>Apr 14th 2009 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/

more people drive honda's than ferrari's...does that make honda's better?]]>Apr 14th 2009 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/dude! you actually listed iTunes as a PLUS?!? that thing is slow on my brand new Macbook Pro!!!!!! just shut up please... -.- (btw, a bigger market share does NOT mean a better product. and you precious little iPod touch sound 1/10000000 of a percent as good as my samsung p2? no. it can't. until you realize that not everyone likes the iPod touch, I command, er, request, your silence.)
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]]>Apr 14th 2009 3:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/could not have said it better!]]>Apr 14th 2009 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/your comment doesn't make a bit of sense but for some reason I agree with you.
]]>Apr 14th 2009 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/moreover you seem to have forgottent that the ferrarri in your story (the iRiver) is like twice cheaper than the Honda (iPod touch)..]]>Apr 15th 2009 6:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/
The only files I haven't gotten to play are .mkv's... plays every other torrented file i've thrown at it. The included iriver Plus 3 software does a great job and Media Monkey will sync right to the player as well. Also, not sure what the comment about a jeans pocket means, it fits just fine and the corners of the player don't interfere.

Would have been nice if the reviewer told us what types of files he tried to play that wouldn't work? Container, bitrate, etc....

Again, Typical....and disappointing but what do you expect from Engadget these days.]]>Apr 14th 2009 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/
Why is that so many new gadgets are released with great hardware but crummy software? All they do is shoot themselves in the foot by racking up negative reviews only due to software, which they generally do get around to fixing later...

If this thing really could play all the different video codecs with great sub support, it'd be a hit. Why is that so difficult?

Seems to me the Cowon O2 is still the best player for natively playing different formats...]]>Apr 14th 2009 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/
You gotta squeeze an Apple product plug in there somewhere I guess.]]>Apr 14th 2009 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/You're going to complain about the packaging now?
For fuck's sake, it's a clear plastic box that opens.

"Jesus fucking shit, you mean it's a clear box that opens?! There must be some Apple infringement afoot. I mean, a clear box that opens. Only something so innovative and so inspirational as a clear box that opens could come from Apple and Apple alone."]]>Apr 14th 2009 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/
Happens all the time in business. One company wants to leach off another company's success by, say...copying case materials/colors, copying icon styles, just having one button, having a certain size touch screen, etc... take your pick. I'm not going to sit here and try to convince you of that. For one, it seems blatantly obvious here and two, you seem pretty much set with your opinion and attitude.

Let me just say this. Remember those less than popular kids in high school who thought that they'd become more popular by hanging around and dressing like the cool kids. It's fine. Happens all the time. And I guess it's natural. Problem is is that it also happens to be rather sad and pathetic (IMHO). That's what's happening here.

If people are going to talk about stupidity of the masses (like many of you describing ppl who like Apple products), let's start there.]]>Apr 14th 2009 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/
Reactions, please!...or not.]]>Apr 14th 2009 11:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/
im gonna stick with my netbook for my media]]>Apr 14th 2009 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/
I gotta love that home screen or whatever it is. Oh so clean. The magazine idea is great, but it lacks a bit of pop. ]]>Apr 14th 2009 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/
It does play a myriad of codecs, that's the rub... Engadget in there ever decreasing wisdom leads you to believe it does not, but, they don't tell you what they did play or tried to play or the format of what failed.

If they would have actually listed the format support, you might be surprised. Here it is:

iriver P7
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AVI, MP4, DAT, MPG, VOB, WMV, RM/RMVB, 3GP, FLV - Container
MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, Xvid, WMV 7,8,9, H.264 - Codec

Cowon O2
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AVI, MP4, DAT, MPG, WMV, RM/RMVB, MKV, OGM - Container
MPEG-1, MPEG-4, Dvix, Xvid, WMV 7,8,9, H.264, MJPEG

There are a couple of obvious differences, but other than those the codec support is very close. Both handle H.264 and Xvid which are extremely popular. The O2 has the advantage of playing the .MKV container which is cool.

]]>Apr 14th 2009 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/
I'd have been interested to hear about it's video playback, subtitle support, or sound quality... Guess I'll have to look elsewhere for a real review...]]>Apr 14th 2009 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/This coming from a neutral point of view
River basically blows in comparison to
iPod touch. The touch is Ferrari lamborghini
Of pmps at a Honda price. So u would be either
A complete uninformed or a straight out fool
To buy this over touch or Sony , this coming from a Sony
Fanboy. I hate apple but will give credit when credit is due.
I have no problem recognizing when I am wrong.]]>Apr 14th 2009 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Nevertheless it's not the Best PMP.
It's a good PMP, and average MID combined.
This might be the most awesome device to your taste but again it's your needs not everyone's need.
You definitely have to get rid of Apple's main idea :"everyone is the same and needs exactly the same things : what steeve offers."

Nice PMP you came up with iRiver and Damn cheap too !]]>Apr 14th 2009 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/River must price it at half the cost of touch , so if priced over $115 will guaranteed fail.
American consumers are very smart and informed, I love competition but this is no competition. Trust me I root for the underdog.]]>Apr 14th 2009 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 11:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Lol?
This is a joke right ?
The USA participate for 99% of the spam all over the world, your news networks are among the most biased right after Russia North Korea and Iran, and you still use Internet explorer and buy MacPro !
(Ok you elected Obama that must count for something but wake up there is still a lot to do on the "smart and informed" side : start by destroying Fox News forever)

Start making sense bro'.]]>Apr 15th 2009 6:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/
Hahaha, could not have said better myself]]>Jun 7th 2009 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/
You'd be better off buying one of those cheap $70 chinese pmps. ]]>Apr 14th 2009 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 7:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/iriver-p7-unboxing-and-review/Apr 14th 2009 10:39PM