http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/ Engadget Comments for GM proposes standardized plug for electric vehicles http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
Wait - does that mean that there is already a standard and GM is just doing this for marketing as a last-ditch effort to remain afloat? Nah, that couldn't be it - they're still going strong]]>Apr 17th 2009 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
Since CARB decided that inductive charging was evil back in 2002, I guess we're re-inventing the wheel all over again 10 years later at taxpayer expense.]]>Apr 17th 2009 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
I would like to see the cable used to power a desktop PSU, much less charge a laptop carry the amperage needed to *quickly* charge the batteries of an EV.]]>Apr 17th 2009 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
This would limit the incentive for thieves and people who buy stolen cars from them, as vehicles will be easier to track or unable to be recharged from a roadside station. It would also allow manufacturers to properly integrate media playback devices in cars with home computers where music is typically stored. People could plot a route from their home computer and use the fact that the car is on the network to upload the data to their GPS device, or route data could be collected and uploaded to a local council server to help city planning to ease congestion. Building in data functionality really gives manufacturers room to innovate.

Of course, this would have to be done in a standards compliant manner, as we all know how car manufacturers love to tie people in to proprietary technologies. To allow for expansion, it should use something similar to Bluetooth's profiles, which eliminate the need for drivers (pun intended) and ensure compatibility, whilst giving manufacturers room to innovate. Of course, services such as GPS tracking for the police and town planning using GPS route data require security and responsible use on the part of those services. Given that access to the data is properly controlled (for example, only being authorised to track cars that have been reported stolen), the automotive industry could really take a leap forward with this.]]>Apr 17th 2009 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
@Slappy Wag - the Volt doesn't need to be recharged every 40 miles. That's just the range of it's battery. There's still that little thing called a gasoline engine in it.

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Thats billions if not trillions of dollars worldwide.

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And who said only gas stations could do this? This definitely opens up a new market for other providers.]]>Apr 17th 2009 8:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
Its such a big leap, and no one is willing to make the first move it seems, thus the lack of real progress....]]>Apr 17th 2009 8:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/]]>Apr 17th 2009 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
The only thing Free about the GM market is the TAX MONIES THEY ARE GETTING FROM TAX PAYERS... even people who dont even use a car..

FACK YOU GM! STFU and close your word hole you wont be around to sell 1 of your crappy electric cars...

You had a chance and you killed it off..

DIE GM DIE]]>Apr 17th 2009 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Win, win!]]>Apr 17th 2009 8:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
Thats half the problem, everyone has all these great ideas on how electric cars should be and what have you, but no one has the cash to put those ideas into action.

Plus i dont think ExxonMobile aka BP Shell etc would be too happy.]]>Apr 17th 2009 9:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
Yea, the oil companies might frown upon you, but the ConEds, PECOs, Excelons, whatever power companies will probably give you a nice pat on the back.

@wjousts:

I'm not sure what kind of wind turbine/solar technology your privy to, but if that garage of yours is any bigger than one spot, you might have a problem meeting your energy demands.]]>Apr 17th 2009 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Plus, who gives a fuck what the oil companies thinks of the idea? AFAIK, they don't own parking garages.

@elBravo: Solar and/or wind is just to supplement the electricity you get from the grid. As I said in my first post, it's to reduce your electricity costs, not to completely replace the electric utility. Plus, at least some of the time, you'd be generating more than your using and you can sell it back.]]>Apr 17th 2009 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
Outrageous profit you say? Maybe, but what else is the driver going to do when the only socket for his "standard plug" is at the government approved and licensed charging station?

Of the $14 gross profit, the station will probably get to keep $2, $10 will go to the feds for taxes and license fees, and fat ass Al Gore will get the last $2 for carbon offsets.]]>Apr 17th 2009 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
I'd like to see you say that to the faces of the millions of people working in General Motors factories around the world, and their families.

Regardless of their corporate overlords, working at a GM factory has been some people's life jobs. And it's not gonna be easy for them to find jobs if ALL the GM factories in the world close at once.]]>Apr 18th 2009 3:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
There's not even a global standard on Electricity yet.

I do hope they come up with a standard motor mount as well. It would be nice to have competitors in every field trying to produce more efficient motors as well as batteries instead of being tied into your car and the motor that came with it.]]>Apr 17th 2009 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
wireless charging would be kinda dangerous for hybrid (petrol + electric) cars... unless it's charged by some kinda electromagnetic field with a specific frequency :P or whatever.]]>Apr 17th 2009 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
I'd prefer the battery swap idea I've read somewhere the other day.]]>Apr 17th 2009 8:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
http://www.betterplace.com/

Drive in like you are going to one of those Laser Wash car wash thingies and a robot arm will lift out your depleted battery and put in a fresh one in under 5 minutes. ]]>Apr 17th 2009 8:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
Hopefully, companies will create converters for those electrics that don't meet the standard...assuming that's even possible,]]>Apr 17th 2009 8:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/PLEASE BE MINI USB!!!!]]>Apr 17th 2009 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/]]>Apr 17th 2009 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/]]>Apr 17th 2009 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/Apr 17th 2009 8:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/gm-proposes-standardized-plug-for-electric-vehicles/
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