http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/And personally I like better simple solutions.]]>Apr 19th 2009 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/
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110 charging for home is probably ok, because you're going to charge over night, but for charge stations it just won't be enough...]]>Apr 19th 2009 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/
The "normal plug" idea doesn't neccessarily work dude.]]>Apr 19th 2009 9:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 11:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 20th 2009 12:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/
This would be like all laptop makers agreeing on the same plug to fit in all laptops. Or Cell phone companies agreeing on all cellphone using a mini-usb plug.

Tesla probably did not sign up because they are already making EV cars. They will have to access how much it will cost them to switch. Who even knows if they are a member of SAE. ]]>Apr 20th 2009 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 20th 2009 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/
yay same plug!

first!]]>Apr 19th 2009 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/
Still totally cool to see automakers can agree about stuff (much better than computer makers, indeed), but I always find it weird when people say electrical cars are clean.]]>Apr 19th 2009 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/
Yes, we know. It's pointed out every time anybody mentions electric cars. By abstracting devices to use electricity as their fuel, we can concentrate on advancing clean electricity production techniques and have the benefits shared by everything. Once we've consolidated everything to depend on the grid, we can clean up everything by cleaning up the grid. It's a centralised solution.

There are clean ways to generate electricity. Once electric cars are more common, demand for electricity will rise, and electricity producers will have to look at big generators such as dams, nuclear stations or decentralised wind turbines that feed in to the grid. I imagine there will be tax incentives to build green generators when we're at that stage.

However, I don't welcome this news. They should have taken more time in designing the standard, and taken the opportunity to add data services. This would have meant plugging in your car would be like docking your phone. I elaborated on this in the comments of Engadget's original post.
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As long as the electricity is generated from wind, hydro, solar, or nuclear then there are zero emissions. That being said, even a car that derives it's energy from coal power plants would be far more clean. Having centralized energy production in that way allows for centralized pollution control measures, filters, so-called "clean coal" rather than depending on X number of cars, manufacturers, and consumers to deal with pollution control.]]>Apr 19th 2009 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/
Whos to say that theyhavent done that? The description given is very vague and just states the electrical properties. This standard is by no means finished, just agreed that all makers will use a standardized plug.]]>Apr 19th 2009 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/
I can see what your trying to say, that without gas powered vehicles that a much larger strain will be put on electrical facilities that also contribute to air pollution and degrade our environment.. but its never even been close to the amount of garbage that gas power vehicles produce. Im gonna post a couple excerpts here:

Most ozone pollution is caused by motor vehicles, which account for 72% of nitrogen oxides and 52% of reactive hydrocarbons (principal components of smog). (7, 1990)

Emissions from cars dwarfs that from power plants. In May 2000, Austin Energy planned to reduce nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions by 40% at its Decker and Holly power plants, from 1700 tons per year to less than 1000tpy by 2003. By comparison, NOx emissions in Travis county from motor vehicles totaled approximately 30,000 tons per year in 1996 -- the last year for which complete data was available. (1, 2000)

Sited: http://bicycleuniverse.info/transpo/almanac.html

You can google it and find it anywhere that vehicles have always placed more harmful chemicals into the air.. excluding coal power in china.. lol

BUT everyone is entitled to their own opinion.. like i said in the first place, for me, this makes me think of one step in the right direction and makes me think of a greener cleaner future.

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Saving lives through nuclear power. :p]]>Apr 19th 2009 6:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Also, I'm not so sure that blocking huge amounts of solar energy will not have long term effects on Earth. And I wouldn't want to live in a Trantor-like planet, with only ceilings above our heads.]]>Apr 20th 2009 8:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/
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China demanded this a few years ago for their market, and it was implemented quickly.]]>Apr 19th 2009 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/
So we got Motorola and two months from now Palm. We're almost there.]]>Apr 19th 2009 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Scratch RIM off the non-complier list. The 8900 Curve has micro USB... and Lord knows how many people on boards bemoan that it does not have a "standard mini-USB"]]>Apr 19th 2009 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 20th 2009 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 4:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/Apr 19th 2009 4:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/19/automakers-agree-on-common-plug-to-recharge-electric-vehicles/
3 for power and ground, and 4 for a USB-like connection to tell you things like car status, power, etc.
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Say you're charging your car and someone next to you is too. How do you make sure your charger doesn't start talking to that car and vice-versa?

I'm sure the cable has some kind of data on it.]]>Apr 19th 2009 8:32PM